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Old 16th January 2009   #1
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weiss declicker

this is a question to anyone who has used the weiss declicker.

i used it on a few records last week and i love what it does. has anyone used the soundblade no noise that has also used the weiss?

i'd love to buy the weiss for my personal spot, but 8g$ is a bit high at the moment. i was curious if any soundblade users have used both and what they felt the differences were/how they compared.

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this is a question to anyone who has used the weiss declicker.

i used it on a few records last week and i love what it does. has anyone used the soundblade no noise that has also used the weiss?

i'd love to buy the weiss for my personal spot, but 8g$ is a bit high at the moment. i was curious if any soundblade users have used both and what they felt the differences were/how they compared.

thanks,

k
The Weiss is a different philosophy from most other denoisers. It can work without a fingerprint. If you don't have or can't make a fingerprint (which is often the case), the Weiss is an excellent tool. If you have a fingerprint, I believe there are some equal or better tools.
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does the weiss just run in line all the time like any other processor? or do you feed it selected (in the daw) audio which is processed and then inserted back into the playback daw, more like izotope and the like?
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does the weiss just run in line all the time like any other processor? or do you feed it selected (in the daw) audio which is processed and then inserted back into the playback daw, more like izotope and the like?
The Weiss DNA-1 is a realtime hardware processor.
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The Weiss DNA-1 is a realtime hardware processor.

ya, and you can just set the time delay depending on what you're doing. mine was set at a 2 second delay. which made it a little difficult for a/b ing the chain.....but man it sounded good.


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I had the unit for a year. It's very deep. Once you master it you can do everything in real time and better than any software I've tried. Some say it's too hard to set up, I just say "deep", trust me when I say the original software was much harder to set up but still well worth it. What you are rewarded with is being able to declick, decrackle and recover the lost ambiance (thank you Bob) all while listening to the source material run through it. Just dial down the clicks till they are gone.

IMHO it's much more accurate than capturing one small segment and applying that fingerprint to the overall track... it's also way faster in the long run to do a whole LP this way.

I restored a few vinyl albums with it, I could remove all the noise (including the sound of the vinyl itself) if I wanted...

You can also watch the different types of dither you apply and see how much they actually come down into the frequency spectrum. Some of the POW-R's come down pretty far below 20K. I found that interesting as well.

If I was restoring audio all day long it would be the one box I would insist on having...
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At approx $8300 street price for the Weiss DNA declicker / K-stereo processor & a little over $10000 for the full version with denoiser included you'd have to do a heckuva lot of restortation of material that was basically "f-ed" to make the purchase a decent business decision.

For the vast majority of declicking needs in typical mastering I find isolating just the single area where the click occurs and processing just this area to be far superior method than processing the whole thing through hardware. Anyway - Acon Digital's Studio Clean DX/VST suite includes an excellent declicker for very little cash - one of the best bang for bucks out there - Studio Clean - DirectX & VST Plug-In Suite - Noise Reduction and Audio Restoration

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You can also watch the different types of dither you apply and see how much they actually come down into the frequency spectrum. Some of the POW-R's come down pretty far below 20K. I found that interesting as well
fwiw - you can do this already in nearly any DAW with a simple RTA. And not to nitpick - but I don't know of any effective dither algorithm that doesn't have noise well below 20kHz.

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