So I bought Metallica on vinyl, thinking it would be better. :)

BushmasterM4 · 2nd December 2008

After reading the horror stories of the smashed sound on the cd. I thaught maybe the vinyl (records for the young kids) would be mixed and mastered better. Hell no !!!! Its the same as the cd. Dont waist your money.

badmark · 2nd December 2008

Hot damn! Well, without wishing to get into a flame war, I was put in mind of that old producer's saying about being able to polish a diamond but not a tu*d

MASSIVE Master · 2nd December 2008

Thanks, though - Was considering the vinyl route for the helluvit.

But I'd rather save the $20 for the helluvit also...

andsonic · 2nd December 2008

I think the consensus has been that the "destruction" done to the Metallica project was done in the mixing stage and effected the stereo master.

The mastering engineer received clipped mixes to work with. Some have said that the Guitar Hero version doesn't have the problems. That version is supposedly based on stems from the original mix session. Stems that were unaffected by whatever processing was put on the 2 mix.

I think every stereo version is going to be affected by the original mix processing.

For what it's worth.

Who woulda thunk it... Maybe Axl heard all the complaints about Metallica and chose a different path for "Chinese Democracy".

BushmasterM4 · 2nd December 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by andsonic

I think the consensus has been that the "destruction" done to the Metallica project was done in the mixing stage and effected the stereo master.

The mastering engineer received clipped mixes to work with. Some have said that the Guitar Hero version doesn't have the problems. That version is supposedly based on stems from the original mix session. Stems that were unaffected by whatever processing was put on the 2 mix.

I think every stereo version is going to be affected by the original mix processing.

For what it's worth.

Who woulda thunk it... Maybe Axl heard all the complaints about Metallica and chose a different path for "Chinese Democracy".

I also read the Guitar Hero version was alot better. Thats what I based my decision on getting the vinyl. Didnt work that way. Maybe I try the Guitar Hero route. My kids play it alot, so its not waisted money.

scraggs · 2nd December 2008

"waste".

i haven't heard the proper cd, but the guitar hero version is indeed quite dynamic and not smashed at all.

ONDRAY · 2nd December 2008

I bought the cd to hear what all the ruckus was about... well at least I can use it as pink noise to calibrate my studio

. (jokes)

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BushmasterM4 Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 214 Thread Starter	So I bought Metallica on vinyl, thinking it would be better. :) After reading the horror stories of the smashed sound on the cd. I thaught maybe the vinyl (records for the young kids) would be mixed and mastered better. Hell no !!!! Its the same as the cd. Dont waist your money.

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badmark Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,015	So I bought Metallica on vinyl, thinking it would be better. :) Hot damn! Well, without wishing to get into a flame war, I was put in mind of that old producer's saying about being able to polish a diamond but not a tu*d __________________ the band:www.myspace.com/thedripdryman me:www.myspace.com/svenkarma

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MASSIVE Master Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.) IL Posts: 2,709 Verified Member	Thanks, though - Was considering the vinyl route for the helluvit. But I'd rather save the $20 for the helluvit also... __________________ John Scrip - Massive Mastering, LLC - www.massivemastering.com Spoon-feed a newb some answer and he'll mix for a day - Get him to think about it and figure it out for himself and he'll mix for a lifetime --- JS

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andsonic Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Greater San Francisco Posts: 2,142	It's the Mix Master I think the consensus has been that the "destruction" done to the Metallica project was done in the mixing stage and effected the stereo master. The mastering engineer received clipped mixes to work with. Some have said that the Guitar Hero version doesn't have the problems. That version is supposedly based on stems from the original mix session. Stems that were unaffected by whatever processing was put on the 2 mix. I think every stereo version is going to be affected by the original mix processing. For what it's worth. Who woulda thunk it... Maybe Axl heard all the complaints about Metallica and chose a different path for "Chinese Democracy". __________________ J Andrews Studio E Chief Engineer "I can't afford to die... it would ruin my image." -Jack Lalanne RIP

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ONDRAY Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 737	I bought the cd to hear what all the ruckus was about... well at least I can use it as pink noise to calibrate my studio . (jokes) __________________ ____________________________ Minus3Audio.com

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scraggs Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 249	"waste". i haven't heard the proper cd, but the guitar hero version is indeed quite dynamic and not smashed at all.

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