Weiss DS1 MkIII

[Silvertone]

Hi Gang,

Any of you upgrade the chip set to Daniels newest incarnation? If so how do you like it so far? How is the RMS mode?

best,
Larry

[inlinenl]

Yep interested also ... any buggys ...

[MattGray]

Last I spoke with Daniel he said it wasn't officially released yet & that it was probably a few weeks away as they are bug testing the software. I'm keen to get dual mono support, I'm hoping that will open up the stereo image a bit more. Does anyone else notice the image slightly shrink with the current Mk2 software?

Matt

[Andy Krehm]

Originally Posted by MattGray

Last I spoke with Daniel he said it wasn't officially released yet & that it was probably a few weeks away as they are bug testing the software. I'm keen to get dual mono support, I'm hoping that will open up the stereo image a bit more. Does anyone else notice the image slightly shrink with the current Mk2 software?

Matt

No! But if I got it, I would probably run it in dual mono mode.

[inlinenl]

Hi Guys,

no image schrink on the DS1 at least not as obv. as on the standard EQ1-MKII running in L/R mode ... in M/S it's better.

what is the RMS option .. on the MKIII software ..

[DrDeltaM]

Originally Posted by inlinenl

what is the RMS option .. on the MKIII software ..

Normally, the DS1 is a peak sensitive compressor, but with mkIII you can have it react on the RMS of your signal if you like.

The manual of mkIII is online here:
http://www.weiss.ch/ds1/documents/ds1-mk3_manual.pdf

[MattGray]

Originally Posted by inlinenl

Hi Guys,

no image schrink on the DS1 at least not as obv. as on the standard EQ1-MKII running in L/R mode ... in M/S it's better.

what is the RMS option .. on the MKIII software ..

That's funny to my ears the EQ-1 Mk2 doesn't change the image (unless you EQ in M/S mode where it can get wider if you boost the S channel frequencies). In L/R ganged mode I haven't noticed any shrinkage. This is with DSP Code V 4.2, OS V 7.1, Scales #4.1.

With the DS-1 DSP code 2.0, OS version 2.0, Scales #1.3 Coefficients #1.2 I notice it close in the image ever so slightly. Much the same effect as when you run some analog compressors in L/R linked mode, you unlink & the image opens up a bit more.

I'm hoping the combination of dual mono mode or M/S mode will help open the DS-1 up a bit more & it will also be nice to have RMS detection as an option particularly in parallel mode.

Matt

[weiss2496]

Hi all

We are now shipping the DS1-MK3 software. Write to me at weiss@weiss.ch

Daniel

[Black Belt]

BUMP...

Found this thread in looking for answers about the MKIII upgrade. Are the MKIII users out there pleased with the upgrade? Pros/cons? Are you using the BK presets as a springboard or do you avoid them all together? Thoughts?

As always, thanks for your insight!

[Ben F]

Originally Posted by Black Belt

BUMP...

Found this thread in looking for answers about the MKIII upgrade. Are the MKIII users out there pleased with the upgrade? Pros/cons? Are you using the BK presets as a springboard or do you avoid them all together? Thoughts?

As always, thanks for your insight!

I find the M/S processing really useful, mainly for de-essing and taming high hats. Still using my old presets though, the Bob Katz ones were just weird to me! Could live with just the MKII version as I don't use M/S that often.

[hams]

I really like using it to de-ess in m/s mode, very helpful. Parallel m/s compression can occasionally do nice things as well.

There is no downside to the mk3 software, I don't think you lose any functionality from mk2.

[MattGray]

Mostly using the 'unlinked' mode here which was implemented with the MkIII software. I found the linked mode (only mode available in Mk2) pulled the stereo in a touch which I didn't like.

I'm mostly using the DS-1 to correct issues, usually de-essing or some form of frequency dependant compression. Never use the BK pre-sets I'm with Ben, they just seem a bit strange to me.

[livingstone]

this box is amazing,
great at fixing things

yesterday unlinked mode frequency dependent expention on the bass range to reintroduce dynamics in a far too compressed bass/kick in the mid, while the S where de essing

worked great !

parallel compression is a bit weird to me , i don't use it that often ,
but i've had some great success with paralell expension.

this box just lack a variable link to be perfect ! ( à la api2500 or knif vari mu II )

[Tube World]

I get the feeling this this compressor really used more for fixing things as it is a very transparent comp. Is this true?

[Ben F]

Originally Posted by Tube World

I get the feeling this this compressor really used more for fixing things as it is a very transparent comp. Is this true?

Yes it is more of a transparent tool box.

[Black Belt]

Thanks everyone for the insight! I think I'll be sticking with the MkII for awhile longer, though some of the new features seem interesting.

[MattGray]

Originally Posted by Black Belt

Thanks everyone for the insight! I think I'll be sticking with the MkII for awhile longer, though some of the new features seem interesting.

fwiw... if I was stuck with version 2 I'd probably have sold it by now as others did. The Mk3 made that much of a difference to me. YMMV

[Black Belt]

Oh cool...so is there a sonic difference/enhancement then? Or is it simply having the unlink feature and other m/s options?

[MattGray]

Originally Posted by Black Belt

Oh cool...so is there a sonic difference/enhancement then? Or is it simply having the unlink feature and other m/s options?

Both, I never liked the sound of 'linked' mode to me it shrinks the image a bit. Unlinked sounds transparent & true to the source. When I first bought the DS-1 Mk2 I was disappointed. Fortunately the Mk3 wasn't far off so I decided to wait for it as I had a suspicion that the unlinked mode would solve my problem... It did, all the other functions in the Mk3 were an added bonus.