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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006
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Thread Starter | Frequency= note? Apologies if this is in the wrong area So I'm reading a magazine that says the ME likes to boost the frequency of the root note in the key signature of the song. Does anyone have a link or chart that shows the notes and their corresponding eq frequency? |
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| Gear nut Joined: Jan 2008
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Attached is a PDF that shows the frequencies of musical notes. It can be useful! Good luck! DS | |
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hey there, here is a link from an earlier post about this "kinda" subject, EQ Frequency Chart. i do know what yr exactly refering to tho...i think david bowies mixer/producer on the low album??? forget his name did a multiple notch eq referencing the harmonics...dammit forget his name, anyway, heres Harmony Central - Pitch vs. Frequency is a really useful webpage detailing this kind of stuff, but i've yet to come across a calculator of sorts that immediately gives me the harmonics of say C major in all freq ranges...without doin tha maths...anyone know of such thing? Sam. Australia. |
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| Gear maniac Joined: May 2008 Location: Roma - Italy
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nice work skuttbergsveen!!! thankyou!! no more divisions of 440hz!!!! lol |
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Mucho Gracious!
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| Gear nut Joined: Mar 2007 Location: New York City
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Bob Katz' book also has a nice frequency chart.
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Verified Member | ...which is also mentioned in this BK video about cutting root notes - essential viewing IMO. http://www.digido.com/bob-katz/bass-...ery-movie.html |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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There are a couple of occasions where I need the chart, but boosting the root note is not one of them. Why? 1) Its impossible to boost only the root note with any eq since there is always a range of notes that will be boosted even with a narrow q. 2) You are definitely messing with the art when you do that - introducing a new concept into the music which I would argue is not clearly (rather than clearly not) the business of mastering, 3) There are at least 8 root notes for any key, 4) If you want to accentuate the key of the song you are perhaps more likely to acheive that with harmonics (like, distortion) built on a low root since they will not create fudge 5) I have tried this and results are not that great compared to just using ears, 6) If you want to do this at the lowest root note, its usually defined by the Bass instrument(s), so is much more easy to do in the mix. 7) I think if you did this in classical music you might be fired. In Rock, I've tried using autotune on the kick to force the "tuning" to the root of the song. If the kick is badly tuned to, say, a tritone (sharp 5th) of the tonic, then forcing the kick to the root note can indeed open up the tune.... but can also radically change the mix. Overall, I'd say its fun to mess around with esp at mix, but not something I'd say is some sorta automatic win. I would not do it unless there were a problem - but what the hell if it sounds good do it. ted. |
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Yah, where? BR Patrik |
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I remember someone telling me that you can 'tune' the reverb of a track so that it is more resonant to the root...always wondered about this (whether it's possible or not).
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Brooklyn, New York
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fwiw - a handy freeware converter from frequency to note and visa versa for PC can be downloaded at Audio Downloads : Frequency Converter /// AnalogX Best regards, Steve Berson |
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I have actually have a desktop photo of the note/freq available on my site: NOTE/FREQ CHART
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Thread Starter | found it! Though it was on mixing, not mastering EQ March 2008 Bob Mould "Once I have a good basic tone to work with, I may highlight certain notes depending upon the part, and the key it's in. For instance, if it's in A, I might give a narrow boost around 2.3 kHz to give the part a little color, and accentuate some of the overtones" |
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| Gear maniac | Its a copy of the Carnegie Hall Chart. I've got that chart hanging in my studio. It has the major frequency ranges for all the instruments in an orchestra. So useful to know where the bandwidth is spreading.. Lately I've been using it if there are a buildup of a particular "Note" that I need to reduce. Though, I never thought of boosting the dominant. Interesting..
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Maybe it's the root, or the fifth, or the octave harmonic, or the third above that, or the kick drum instead, maybe a wide Q works better than something so specific. Perhaps it's a cut instead of a boost that's needed, or a combination. Basses can be uneven in their response... A Fender P Bass usually has a big low G, but a weak low F... Then the sub-dominant (4) chord happens, it can all change... Maybe there are lots of chord & key changes... Maybe it's free jazz with no key or root... Certainly no harm in knowing the freqs of the low bass notes & keys tho' Musical knowledge is a good thing. Best - JT
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Maybe digital can do this better? I think the trick is to find a curve that doesn't make you say "I love how they enhanced that sharp 11th right there...." Quote:
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But just like too much Science, it can actually get in the way of listening to the whole thing..... DC | |||||
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Here's an awesome free tool for Mac that my mixes simply couldn't live without : Music Math Aside from Note : Hz : MIDI, it has SMPTE conversions, loop length in bars : samples, ms and Hz values for timed delay / modulation based on BPM, Semitone value for Transposition : % of time stretching, and a BPM converter that displays time stretching and Semitone values. Extremely handy!
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especially the comment on the sharp eleventh... the odd tree in the forest. The P Bass... Leo knew exactly what he was doing. JT | |
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| Gear Guru Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Damn, now I need a plug in for root/5th/3rd/9th/6th/11th analysis and auto correction... I knew there was something I was doing wrong. I hope the plug looks good.
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Is it helpful? BRGRDS Patrik | |
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It's the inversions that confuse me.
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I don't get excited by the latest new gear, think folks should learn to identify frequencies in Hertz, by ear, never use the term "best." etc........... Primitive. DC | |
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