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Old 21st May 2008   #1
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Frequency= note?

Apologies if this is in the wrong area

So I'm reading a magazine that says the ME likes to boost the frequency of the root note in the key signature of the song. Does anyone have a link or chart that shows the notes and their corresponding eq frequency?
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Apologies if this is in the wrong area

So I'm reading a magazine that says the ME likes to boost the frequency of the root note in the key signature of the song. Does anyone have a link or chart that shows the notes and their corresponding eq frequency?
Hi,

Attached is a PDF that shows the frequencies of musical notes. It can be useful!

Good luck!

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hey there,
here is a link from an earlier post about this "kinda" subject,
EQ Frequency Chart.

i do know what yr exactly refering to tho...i think david bowies mixer/producer on the low album??? forget his name did a multiple notch eq referencing the harmonics...dammit forget his name, anyway,

heres Harmony Central - Pitch vs. Frequency is a really useful webpage detailing this kind of stuff, but i've yet to come across a calculator of sorts that immediately gives me the harmonics of say C major in all freq ranges...without doin tha maths...anyone know of such thing?

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maybe these two links could help you
FREQUENCY CHART 1

FREQUENCY CHART 2
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nice work skuttbergsveen!!! thankyou!! no more divisions of 440hz!!!! lol
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Mucho Gracious!
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Bob Katz' book also has a nice frequency chart.
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Bob Katz' book also has a nice frequency chart.

...which is also mentioned in this BK video about cutting root notes - essential viewing IMO.

http://www.digido.com/bob-katz/bass-...ery-movie.html
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root note

There are a couple of occasions where I need the chart, but boosting the root note is not one of them. Why? 1) Its impossible to boost only the root note with any eq since there is always a range of notes that will be boosted even with a narrow q. 2) You are definitely messing with the art when you do that - introducing a new concept into the music which I would argue is not clearly (rather than clearly not) the business of mastering, 3) There are at least 8 root notes for any key, 4) If you want to accentuate the key of the song you are perhaps more likely to acheive that with harmonics (like, distortion) built on a low root since they will not create fudge 5) I have tried this and results are not that great compared to just using ears, 6) If you want to do this at the lowest root note, its usually defined by the Bass instrument(s), so is much more easy to do in the mix. 7) I think if you did this in classical music you might be fired.

In Rock, I've tried using autotune on the kick to force the "tuning" to the root of the song. If the kick is badly tuned to, say, a tritone (sharp 5th) of the tonic, then forcing the kick to the root note can indeed open up the tune.... but can also radically change the mix.

Overall, I'd say its fun to mess around with esp at mix, but not something I'd say is some sorta automatic win. I would not do it unless there were a problem - but what the hell if it sounds good do it. ted.
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Apologies if this is in the wrong area

So I'm reading a magazine that says the ME likes to boost the frequency of the root note in the key signature of the song.
Really? Where?
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Yah, where?

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I remember someone telling me that you can 'tune' the reverb of a track so that it is more resonant to the root...always wondered about this (whether it's possible or not).
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fwiw - a handy freeware converter from frequency to note and visa versa for PC can be downloaded at Audio Downloads : Frequency Converter /// AnalogX

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Yah, where?

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What a strange idea. What happens when there is more than one note?


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I have actually have a desktop photo of the note/freq available on my site:
NOTE/FREQ CHART
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Really? Where?
I have no idea...I scour the net often and read a few magazines like EQ, Recording, etc.

I tried to find the original article but came up empty...I wonder if I just dreamt this up and assumed I read it

Regardless, good feedback Thanks!
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found it! Though it was on mixing, not mastering
EQ March 2008
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"Once I have a good basic tone to work with, I may highlight certain notes depending upon the part, and the key it's in. For instance, if it's in A, I might give a narrow boost around 2.3 kHz to give the part a little color, and accentuate some of the overtones"
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Bob Katz' book also has a nice frequency chart.
Its a copy of the Carnegie Hall Chart. I've got that chart hanging in my studio.
It has the major frequency ranges for all the instruments in an orchestra. So useful to know where the bandwidth is spreading..

Lately I've been using it if there are a buildup of a particular "Note" that I need to reduce. Though, I never thought of boosting the dominant. Interesting..
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So I'm reading a magazine that says the ME likes to boost the frequency of the root note in the key signature of the song.
An over generalization ... it's not quite that plain and simple.

Maybe it's the root, or the fifth, or the octave harmonic, or the third above that, or the kick drum instead, maybe a wide Q works better than something so specific. Perhaps it's a cut instead of a boost that's needed, or a combination.

Basses can be uneven in their response...

A Fender P Bass usually has a big low G, but a weak low F...

Then the sub-dominant (4) chord happens, it can all change...

Maybe there are lots of chord & key changes...

Maybe it's free jazz with no key or root...

Certainly no harm in knowing the freqs of the low bass notes & keys tho'

Musical knowledge is a good thing.

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Maybe it's the root, or the fifth, or the octave harmonic, or the third above that, or the kick drum instead, maybe a wide Q works better than something so specific. Perhaps it's a cut instead of a boost that's needed, or a combination.
How do you eq the root?

Maybe digital can do this better?

I think the trick is to find a curve that doesn't make you say

"I love how they enhanced that sharp 11th right there...."

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Basses can be uneven in their response...
What Q can tame them?

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A Fender P Bass usually has a big low G, but a weak low F...
Clearly a bad design.

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Then the sub-dominant (4) chord happens, it can all change...

Maybe there are lots of chord & key changes...

Maybe it's free jazz with no key or root...
Or reason number 2^12, that I don't recommend eqing by notes, keys, etc?

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Musical knowledge is a good thing.
Oh, absolutely, I wouldn't trade it for anything.

But just like too much Science, it can actually get in the way of listening to the whole thing.....


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Here's an awesome free tool for Mac that my mixes simply couldn't live without :
Music Math

Aside from Note : Hz : MIDI, it has SMPTE conversions, loop length in bars : samples, ms and Hz values for timed delay / modulation based on BPM, Semitone value for Transposition : % of time stretching, and a BPM converter that displays time stretching and Semitone values. Extremely handy!
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But just like too much Science, it can actually get in the way of listening to the whole thing.....
Thanks for dissecting my post Dave... made me laugh.

especially the comment on the sharp eleventh... the odd tree in the forest.

The P Bass... Leo knew exactly what he was doing.

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Damn, now I need a plug in for root/5th/3rd/9th/6th/11th analysis and auto correction... I knew there was something I was doing wrong. I hope the plug looks good.
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I have actually have a desktop photo of the note/freq available on my site:
NOTE/FREQ CHART
Does it origin from NASA?

Is it helpful?

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especially the comment on the sharp eleventh... the odd tree in the forest.
Do they make a tuning fork for that?

Those instrument charts also show the harmonic content, don't they?

They must have thought of that.


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Here's an awesome free tool for Mac that my mixes simply couldn't live without :
Music Math

Aside from Note : Hz : MIDI, it has SMPTE conversions, loop length in bars : samples, ms and Hz values for timed delay / modulation based on BPM, Semitone value for Transposition : % of time stretching, and a BPM converter that displays time stretching and Semitone values. Extremely handy!
This is a great little program...thanks for posting the link!
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But just like too much Science, it can actually get in the way of listening to the whole thing...
or to quote an old sage, "you can get more stinkin' from thinkin' than you can from drinkin'."
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It's the inversions that confuse me.
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It's the inversions that confuse me.
duh ... phase flip
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or to quote an old sage, "you can get more stinkin' from thinkin' than you can from drinkin'."
Sometimes I feel like I don't fit the Gearslutz paradigm.

I don't get excited by the latest new gear, think folks should learn to identify frequencies in Hertz, by ear, never use the term "best." etc...........

Primitive.

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