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Old 17th May 2008   #1
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Good monitors for Mastering under 1000$ ?

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i want to know if there's any great monitors for mastering under 1000$ a Pair.


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maybe i'm wrong...

Are you sure such a monitor exists?
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I would not use anything less than the Dynaudio BM6A.
Some say BM15A would be preferrable, but a bit more expensive.
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I'm sure you could use any of the PSB, NHT, Paradigm or other passive monitors from the audiophile world. Most of these are monitors so you'll need to add a sub later.
I'd look over at Audiogon for some great prices on speakers where audiophiles like to upgrade often.

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well i'm aware its a bit hard to find hi-end's monitors at 1000$ for mastering

but what i'm asking here is what are the best sounding monitors (without sub) i can get with my budget?
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What do you currently have? Even mid-priced speakers sound pretty good these days, for most people their room is the bigger problem. Are you sure that $1000 worth of speakers will be a bigger upgrade for you than $1000 of acoustic treatment?
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There aren't a lot below $5000!
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What do you currently have? Even mid-priced speakers sound pretty good these days, for most people their room is the bigger problem. Are you sure that $1000 worth of speakers will be a bigger upgrade for you than $1000 of acoustic treatment?

currently i have a pair of Yamaha HS80 these are great for mixing but not quit good for mastering.

i need something to begin with, i have just graduated from a sound engineering school
and i'm planning to setup a small studio for mastering.
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You can find used Thiel 3.5 & 3.6 often for under a $1000 a pair on AudiogoN high end audio auctions, classifieds, hifi chat

While not necessarilly my first choice for monitors I think you can definitely get good results mastering on them if they were paired with a good room and a good amp. fwiw - these were what Paul Zinman was using about 5 years ago when I had him master one of my string quartet's CDs.

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currently i have a pair of Yamaha HS80 these are great for mixing but not quit good for mastering.

i need something to begin with, i have just graduated from a sound engineering school
and i'm planning to setup a small studio for mastering.
I hate to change the subject, but after months of research, I'm ALMOST locked into getting a pair of HS80's. I've heard them before but never mixed on em (I have mixed on the HS50's though). What can you tell me about them? Pros/cons/and all that jazz...

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hello there

i want to know if there's any great monitors for mastering under 1000$ a Pair.


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Enyma,

I'd would like to offer two suggestions. Bowers and Wilkins (B&W) is an English loudspeaker company who have been around since 1966. Currently they have 35 staff dedicated to nothing but research and development. A lot of what they put into their high end studio monitors trickles down to their lower priced line of loudspeakers. My other suggestion is to invest the $1000 into a pair of STAX electrostatic headphones for mastering.

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secondhand focal 6's for a really really good price.
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is this psb good? PSB Speakers - Image T55 Tower

it "almost" fits the 1000 budget (949 regular price, 629 sale price at audiogon), cause i imagine you have to get a good amp...

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I hate to change the subject, but after months of research, I'm ALMOST locked into getting a pair of HS80's. I've heard them before but never mixed on em (I have mixed on the HS50's though). What can you tell me about them? Pros/cons/and all that jazz...

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well the hs80 sound simply amazing considering there price, simply speaking i think you will pay 2 or 3 time the price to get the same accuracy if it's anothere brand. yamaha has done a great job here.

the choice depend on your room if you have a small room the hs50 is all you need.

just go with the hs you wont regret it
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+1 for B&Ws - the 801 series have been a staple in mastering rooms for years ( eg. Abbey Road ) and although you won't get those for anything like $1000, they have many other models available. They aren't all created equal though, so definitely listen before you buy. For example when I was shopping for some new speakers for my living room a couple of years ago, I settled on a pair of 601s, even though I could afford something more expensive - they sounded most balanced, to me, for the money I wanted to spend.

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well the hs80 sound simply amazing considering there price, simply speaking i think you will pay 2 or 3 time the price to get the same accuracy if it's anothere brand. yamaha has done a great job here.

the choice depend on your room if you have a small room the hs50 is all you need.

just go with the hs you wont regret it

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if you have an amp already, check out;
dynaudio bm15
pmc tb2s+
quested vh2108

all around 1000$ and very good depending on your room/ears
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well i'm aware its a bit hard to find hi-end's monitors at 1000$ for mastering

but what i'm asking here is what are the best sounding monitors (without sub) i can get with my budget?
putting aside the obvious "you can't really do it" you might look at some moderately priced second hand lower end audiophile speakers. Something like B&W 603's second hand would go for 7-800 dollars if you look around. They're (nearly) full range and very clear, for the price. in the right room you could do quite well with that sort of set up, but of course no real substitute for great monitors in a great room (very very very important) with a great person running the show!
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There aren't a lot below $5000!
I mastered a lot of records on Quested H-108's!

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usually if you will a deal you can get the MACKIE HR-824'S FOR ALMOST ABOUT 1100

STRONG CRISP SOUND GOOD MIDS BASS LOWS BUT GOOD OVERALL FULL SOUND
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is this psb good? PSB Speakers - Image T55 Tower

it "almost" fits the 1000 budget (949 regular price, 629 sale price at audiogon), cause i imagine you have to get a good amp...

cheers!
Can anyone comment on these?

I'm thinking on getting these for a mix room. They are not the top of the heap but they get rave reviews from the audiophiles and many say the out do the B&W 600 series.
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Smile monitors on a budget..

+1 for B&W.They do have costly top of the range stuff but its so true that the less expensive stuff is decent.Models like the 602 S3,601 s etc...and the new stuff....If you drive them with something cost-effective but good [quad,crown] 2nd hand etc..or even a good hi fi intergrated amp.You will be off to a good start!!Then i guess the room's sound is critical..It drives me mad when people say no you got to just save up for some 5k PMC s or ATCs or whatever..At the end of the day you need a set up that allows you to hear detail and top and low end well + it has to be suitable for most listening devices..car,pc etc...
You can get off to a good start with great mid priced speakers and be jumping for joy with a bargain 2nd hand purchase.BTW you could look for a pair of used PMC TB2s or DB1s.The passive ones can go for £400-700!! a real steal!!!Then you can upgrade the amp in the future...
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usually if you will a deal you can get the MACKIE HR-824'S FOR ALMOST ABOUT 1100

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That's the worst advise I've seen in here in quite some time.
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I would not use anything less than the Dynaudio BM6A.
Some say BM15A would be preferrable, but a bit more expensive.
++thumbsup I love my BM6a's when I upgrade it will be the AIR 25's
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There aren't a lot below $5000!
I'm really a fan of the B&W 685 with sub.

Bob,

Have you tried the B&W speakers in the 600 range? What's your take? I'm not an expert, but they sure beat the snot out of every "studio" monitor that I've used. (The typical GC buys like Event ASP8 and such that cost way more)
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I love my 685s (powering them with a SS Kenwood KM-106, bi-wiring with Tara cables).

One thing to consider about using a dollar figure as a measuring stick to gauge the quality of speakers these days is that companies like Bowers & Wilkins can now sell quality speakers at cheaper costs than ever before b'cus they have a factory in China. From what I've read, the Chinese facility is top notch and is not to be confused with your typical lead-based paint operation.

Now we can afford to drop more bread on room treatment. Thanks Bowers & Wilkins!
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I love my 685s (powering them with a SS Kenwood KM-106, bi-wiring with Tara cables).

One thing to consider about using a dollar figure as a measuring stick to gauge the quality of speakers these days is that companies like Bowers & Wilkins can now sell quality speakers at cheaper costs than ever before b'cus they have a factory in China. From what I've read, the Chinese facility is top notch and is not to be confused with your typical lead-based paint operation.

Now we can afford to drop more bread on room treatment. Thanks Bowers & Wilkins!

I agree. The 685 are absolutely mind blowing. I did a shoot out between the 685 and the Natilus 805s. There was a difference, but not big enough to justify the $2000 price difference. I probably won't be upgrading from the 685 until I have enough business to afford a $5k pair of speakers.
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check the german company Geithain on the web.

I heard theere speakers at the AES convention.

Great, great, great...

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