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Old 2nd April 2008, 04:05 PM   #1
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Extremely fast compressor?

Hi all,

Just had a question on my mind. I thought the mastering section would be a good place to ask my question. I hope you don't mind.

I have a track where it contains really short (1msec) transients that take up all the bandwidth and I would like to tame them a little bit. In no way I am after "mastering" the track, its would just help me to hear it a little bit louder without compressing the other sections of the song. Just for evaluation of the track.

I have tried a couple of high quality plugins I have, like sonnox dynamics, some uad stuff. But they just couldn't catch the transients regardless of how low attack time Ive selected. Could you advise me any other solution? (other than selecting and gain reduction of the transients manually because there are lots of these transients)

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Is this your own mix? Work on whatever is causing the problems at the track level.
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Not sure if this applies to your situation with this particular track, but always remember:

Compressors were invented before DAWs and the ability to automate.

This mentality has saved me from making compression errors in the past.
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Old 2nd April 2008, 05:03 PM   #4
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Hi all,

Just had a question on my mind. I thought the mastering section would be a good place to ask my question. I hope you don't mind.

I have a track where it contains really short (1msec) transients that take up all the bandwidth and I would like to tame them a little bit. In no way I am after "mastering" the track, its would just help me to hear it a little bit louder without compressing the other sections of the song. Just for evaluation of the track.

I have tried a couple of high quality plugins I have, like sonnox dynamics, some uad stuff. But they just couldn't catch the transients regardless of how low attack time Ive selected. Could you advise me any other solution? (other than selecting and gain reduction of the transients manually because there are lots of these transients)

Cheers,
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If it's only 1ms then drawing it out in the daw might work.
Failing that, clipping it might work, although you'll have the obvious side effects.

I've had this problem before, caused by over compressing in the first place, but I liked the sound, except for the spike, drawing it out worked for me. (btw, I couldn't find a softwear compressor or limiter that worked without altering the sound of the track)
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I agree clipping might be your best bet. You'll know right away if it works!


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Old 2nd April 2008, 07:23 PM   #6
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PSP MasterComp can go as fast as 0.01ms. You can also use it for parallel compression (bringing up the quiet sections instead of compressing the loud sections)
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Any look-ahead limiter can do this. With memory/latency you can have 0.0ms attack. Waves L2 or similar will do the trick.
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I have read all of the comments, I will try all of the things you suggested! Thanks all!
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Is this your own mix? Work on whatever is causing the problems at the track level.
Yes its my mix, and I can always go back to the mix.

I see it as a problem because it doesn't allow me to use a good 5-10 dB headroom. Its mainly the snare actually, but I like it the way it sounds, I have used heavy compression, 20-30msec attack and short release to really bring out the attack section. I will try going back to the mix and try L2 after the compressor.

Cheers for the advice.
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Old 3rd April 2008, 04:43 AM   #11
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How about something that will actually sound good?

I just got a Smart C2, not only is it insanely fast, but it sounds incredible... blows the Quad compressor in our desk out of the water.
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If you need to go OTB the NTP 179-400 limiter cards are superfast.
NTP 179-470 ???
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Hi,
hardware: +1 for the C2
Did you try the pure limiter flux plug in ?
(They have a demo version)
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