Dr Dre’s Chronic 2001 - A Milestone In Mastering?

[laboso]

Originally Posted by VasiliZaitsev

You can also push the Waves V-Series EQs and SSL Channel Plug Ins, and there is an overdrive Effect. No digital Clipping, only a little distortion.
But this is not to compare with the analog effects you get on this console.

Yea, I think you mean the "analog" button, but the thing is you're dealing with ones and zeros on the digital plugins and not with voltages like with the actual console... only thing to achieve this effect is to buy a neve or ssl channelstrip and trhrow your samples through it with real hard eq... there are alot of distortion and overdrive plugins but the cool thing about the analog pieces is the warmth AND the clarity at the same time, never been a plugin freak though...

[Sound Thief]

Originally Posted by Lipps

The Chronic- Best Hip Hop album EVER
Chronic 2001 (sonically) the best Hip Hop album EVER. Top ten album

Raekwons first album Only Built For Cuban Linx i would say is sonically better than The Chronic

[MaShakir]

Originally Posted by Joemamma

Awesome sound! It might be my favorite hiphop record ever.
On a few of Dre's tracks I think the snare is 1 or 2 dB's too loud though!

thumbsup Yes, I have noticed this also. I Still think it's a great album though, just gotta be mindful of the ear fatigue from them snares!!

[Table Of Tone]

Originally Posted by MaShakir

thumbsup Yes, I have noticed this also. I Still think it's a great album though, just gotta be mindful of the ear fatigue from them snares!!

I guess people are used to hearing much more limiting on records, bringing those kinda snares down.
One of the things I like about Grundmans is the fact that they don't tread on the mix.

[MaShakir]

Originally Posted by Table Of Tone

I guess people are used to hearing much more limiting on records, bringing those kinda snares down.
One of the things I like about Grundmans is the fact that they don't tread on the mix.

Yes, I agree! thumbsup everything still sounds very well mixed and glued nicely together with clarity, but BANGIN!!

[manman]

Chronic is clipped as crazy.
very dirty sounding album but with good dirtiness

[Table Of Tone]

Are you listening to the audio or looking at the waveform?

Clipping can often be used to step on the mix a lot less than a digital brickwall limiter, sometimes at the expence of distortion!

[manman]

I was listening and u can tell kick drum is not very clean.[i was looking too lol]

Also Question:

Why the vocals are so Low in Volume????
Is not normal hip hop trend to mix vocals that low?

[Table Of Tone]

Originally Posted by manman

I was listening and u can tell kick drum is not very clean.[i was looking too lol]

Also Question:

Why the vocals are so Low in Volume????
Is not normal hip hop trend to mix vocals that low?

Oh Man...
It's Hip Hop!

The car speakers are gonna be "slam dunkin'", way before the mastering is!

Sure, the kick's are dirty!

[DAH]

Originally Posted by manman

I was listening and u can tell kick drum is not very clean.[i was looking too lol]

Also Question:

Why the vocals are so Low in Volume????
Is not normal hip hop trend to mix vocals that low?

Its not low, its just deep in some mixes, not all however. Check Bi*ch ni**az and Let`s get high. Slammed as fu*k, so the vox pops out.

[ARIEL]

Every second word not so good , cant listen to it based on the foul language - sounds great - but just to offensive

[Harry Hughes]

Originally Posted by ARIEL

Every second word not so good , cant listen to it based on the foul language - sounds great - but just to offensive

I'd say perhaps you just take it too seriously.
Don't understand why anyone would take it so seriously that it would offend them

[Politics]

Did nobody notice that dre produces a song for examples...with soft and hard synths, after that he let musicians play his simple compositions(even samples). And the recording chain wich is important to get the right foundation of his production handed to the engineers and so on, that is what differs him from the average hiphop productions....who has the best recording chain, the best muscians, the best engineers. Even if u have it, most of the urban music producers use samples(mbox) Virtual synth or poor recording stage etc etc. THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE DEFFRENTS!

[First Aid]

Dre doesn't even write beats anymore. He buys other producers beats and then has his team rework them dre style. He's kind of incomparable to any other hiphop producer out there really.

[Winey]

Just to add to the misinformation and hearsay. I was in Dre's room around the time or this album. I asked the 2nd what Dre's sessions were like. He said the whole mix comes out pretty much on the first 10 channels or so of the SSL.
The next thing he said was that Dre mixed to the Panasonic 16 bit DAT still and hits it hard. hmmm.

[DAH]

Originally Posted by Winey

Just to add to the misinformation and hearsay. I was in Dre's room around the time or this album. I asked the 2nd what Dre's sessions were like. He said the whole mix comes out pretty much on the first 10 channels or so of the SSL.
The next thing he said was that Dre mixed to the Panasonic 16 bit DAT still and hits it hard. hmmm.

I dig it, slamming the AD of a Panasonic 3700 and getting RMS levels like -12, then getting another 2-3 dB during the mastering. BTW both dre and d&d sound are very wise about their bass AND highs levels in the mix, so the masters can get really LOUD. BTW who was "the 2nd"?

[ARIEL]

Originally Posted by Harry Hughes

I'd say perhaps you just take it too seriously.
Don't understand why anyone would take it so seriously that it would offend them

Well It is not really about taking something too serious or not , That is not the issue . You could say it is a "moral" issue or behavior situation . We all have in our minds/hearts the understanding of right and wrong ,and what is appropriate to say around . This is a good test . Would Dr Dre or you or anybody be around his or your mother and talk like that ? or even around children ? I hope and think not . Why is that ? Your conscience reminds you this is not the way to speak around those close to us . So then that reveals it is uncouth , crass inappropriate etc - So why then expose it and say it to everyone else and claim it as "ART" or freedom of expression - the latter i laugh at because if you took out all the foul words he would only have half as much to say and would it really have any substance at that ? . I hope this makes sense . If people are all good with having junk coming out of their mouths that is their choice . But I really think it makes the fellow look foolish and immature the opposite of what being a man is all about .

But I don't want to derail the main topic which is the sound and quality , So I'll leave it at that