Monster Cable Z200i-X Reference Audiophile vs. Studio Pro 1000

[Jambor Audio]

Who has heard and knows the difference between the cables?

Z200i-X Reference Audiophile ™ High Performance Interconnect Cable with XLR connectors vs. Studio Pro 1000 with XLR

THX, Dirk

[Jambor Audio]

[Jambor Audio]

Nobody knows it?

[Thomas W. Bethe]

They both do what they were made to do.

The both pass audio.

The both are very well made.

Anything else you want to believe is up to you.

[Jambor Audio]

THX Tom.


You have heard the two cable?
What makes it for your ears?


Dirk

[Thomas W. Bethe]

Originally Posted by Jambor Audio

THX Tom.


You have heard the two cable?
What makes it for your ears?


Dirk

Again what sounds GREAT to me may not sound good to you. Pick one and use it.

Its for "your ears only"

Best of Luck!

[Flying_Dutchman]

Originally Posted by Jambor Audio

Who has heard and knows the difference between the cables?

Z200i-X Reference Audiophile ™ High Performance Interconnect Cable with XLR connectors vs. Studio Pro 1000 with XLR

THX, Dirk

Hi Dirk,

i havent tested both cables against each other, but i use Studio Pro 1000s (you mean the monsters?). The difference is there to me compared to standard cables.
The monsters use different wires inside the cable for different frequencies. The goal is to let each frequency range get the way at the same time. Well, many people here doubt this, but well, test it! Maybe there are much better cables out there...
I once heard the Vovox cables on a Genelec sourround setup. The Klotz standards were replaced. The Genelecs sound much opener and had more depth....

[Cellotron]

Personally I think cables priced in this range are a supreme waste of money - I've instead built all my own XLR cables using Neutrik gold connectors and Mogami 2552 which to my ear sounds great and frees up more of my equipment budget to allow for purchase of better sounding processors and monitors - which to me makes a much much greater impact on the ultimate sound of the master than cabling deriving its value from dubious science ever does. Obviously OMMV.

I'd suggest giving a read of Why We Believe prior to any cable tests you run also, as good food for thought.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[Flying_Dutchman]

Originally Posted by Cellotron

Personally I think cables priced in this range are a supreme waste of money - I've instead built all my own XLR cables using Neutrik gold connectors and Mogami 2552 which to my ear sounds great and frees up more of my equipment budget to allow for purchase of better sounding processors and monitors - which to me makes a much much greater impact on the ultimate sound of the master than cabling deriving its value from dubious science ever does. Obviously OMMV.

I'd suggest giving a read of Why We Believe prior to any cable tests you run also, as good food for thought.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

I read the article, thanks for the hint.

Well, when the speakers were connected with vovox i was with Fritz Fey, which is a audio legend here in germany. He´s very familiar with alls kind of measurements, electrical and acustical and does this for many many years. Strange is that he couldnt measure anything !!! The cable didn´t show up any analsys information that could help to understand this phenomena he said.... Strange, we both couldnt believe it.
But, we both, heard a big difference. How can this be? I mean if youre trained a long time with judging audio material, you get a good ear for this. The time to connect the speakers is about 20 min, ok. If you know your system for a long time, you will hear the difference. So why is there a difference that couldnt be measured?

I don´t want to offend sbs meaning in here. I just wonder...

[Kees de Visser]

Originally Posted by Flying_Dutchman

But, we both, heard a big difference. How can this be?
...
So why is there a difference that couldnt be measured?

If you don't believe in magic, the best approach to find an answer is probably the rational one.
You both heard a difference.
A difference couldn't be found with measurements.
The measurements could have been flawed (not accurate enough).
You can have imagined hearing a difference that wasn't actually there.

IMHO the only way to find out (prove) if you really heard a difference, is to perform a double blind test. It's time consuming, but the only way to eliminate psychological effects. When audible differences become smaller, psychological effects become relatively more important. It's very well possible to hear differences that physically don't exist. Been there, done that
Only when the double blind test confirms an audible difference, it makes sense to investigate further for the reasons. Anything else will be speculation.

Kees de Visser

[Bob Olhsson]

FWIW I doubt that Studio Pro 1000 would have the slightest problem passing a double blind test...

[dcollins]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

FWIW I doubt that Studio Pro 1000 would have the slightest problem passing a double blind test...

Against 8451?

Or JPS Aluminata?


DC

[Kees de Visser]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

FWIW I doubt that Studio Pro 1000 would have the slightest problem passing a double blind test...

Hi Bob,
do you think the difference will be unsubtle enough to pass through an AD converter ?
That would be great since a double blind (ABX) test with digital files is very easy to perform.
It also allows others to do the same test as well, assuming they have access to the files.