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Embed ISRC in wave file?

Is it possible to embed the ISRC code directly in the wave file? If so, how?

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Hi Andreas ....

No, it's not possible to my knowledge ....
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if you're using BWF, you could embed it into the description section
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I was looking for something like that too on clients' request. All i can think of, is to make a 1 track-image file. That can be aiff (maybe also wave?) encoded and include an isrc.

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yeah,

as another poster suggested you could put it in the list section of a broadcast wave but there is no standardised way of doing this.

I can't help but think that there really should be if ISRCs are to be at all relevant in the download age...
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I was looking for something like that too on clients' request. All i can think of, is to make a 1 track-image file. That can be aiff (maybe also wave?) encoded and include an isrc.

Peter
Unfortunatelly I can see many of my clients would just scratch their heads in confussion if I was to send them anything else than a single wave file
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I know what you mean. It should be fool proof - without explanation.
Guess we'll have to waite for Apple to invent something for the use in i-Tunes.

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Oh well, back to burning CDs again I suppose
Really hope someone can come up with a idea on how to incorporate the two, fool-proof!
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I know what you mean. It should be fool proof - without explanation.
Guess we'll have to waite for Apple to invent something for the use in i-Tunes.

Peter.
Isn't there a public ISRC tag viewable in every downloaded file? ISRC's are required for uploading content (via Apple iTunes Producer) to the iTunes Music Store.
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Isn't there a public ISRC tag viewable in every downloaded file?
i-Tunes uses tags / meta data so that's why i thought they should be able to include ISRC's easily.
But AFAIK they don't... For uploading you may be asked to provide ISRC's - for obvious reasons - but apparently there's no use including them in the tag. Guess 'till now it's a one way thing.
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Recently for a mastering class, I had to research this same exact problem. How do you put your isrc and even a upc onto a .wav or other digital file and have it embedded and not be changed by end users to evade drm or copyright protection.

I posted the findings on my blog which is HERE. Some of the data might be wrong as I did all the research the night before it was due. Please pm me or tell me in the forum if anything said is false or wrong...I will try my best to correct the blog post to mirror those said changes.

In short the only real way to embed data and have it protected from the end user is to use a "watermarking" program (usually expensive but works well). If you have worked with photos at all, you may be aware of photo watermakring and it does much the same thing. But you "supposedly" (the verdict isnt out yet due to no mass production) cannot hear the embedded signal in the audio file.
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