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Old 2nd June 2007   #1
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Noise, click and hum removal software?

I have about USD250.00 to spend, what is the most
capable noise reduction software at this price point.

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If you're running a PC DAW Acon Digital's Studio Clean DX plugin bundle gives a very good bang for buck (only $69) and works superior to Waves X-Noise in the vast majority of my tests:

Acon Digital Media, Studio Clean

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on the MASC side:

take a look at the new WAVEARTS MASTERING RESTORATION SUITE.

quite good for the dollars and resonably priced.

Wave Arts Master Restoration

CD Spin doctor comes with TOAST 8 and the NR is actually quite useful.

Deep Sea Software - The Makers of CD Spin Doctor 2

Roxio - DVD Burning & CD Burning Software - Creator & Toast Software

your problem is $250 will not buy you much of anything....(except fro CD Spindoctor)

DIGI's DINR anbd BIAS SOUNDSOAP are laughable.

everything else is at least 2 or 3 or 4 or more times expensive.
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I'm into Waves Z Noise. A bit more expensive....not sure how it compares to X Noise...might be its adaptive feature.
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If it's for a specific case, you might be better off hiring someone who has specialised software for it, as $250 won't get you far indeed
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If it's for a specific case, you might be better off hiring someone who has specialised software for it, as $250 won't get you far indeed
Actually - in my direct experience using Virtos Noise Wizard - Virtos Audio - Restoration, Noise Reduction and Enhancement , Sony NR2, Acon Digital Studio Clean and various products from Diamond Cut has shown if properly applied - you CAN get far using products available for less than $300 each.

Obviously YMMV - but to write off all of the above products without actually trying them for specific tasks is frankly a silly thing to do - considering that decent coding doesn't have to mean a premium price.

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Actually - in my direct experience using Virtos Noise Wizard - Virtos Audio - Restoration, Noise Reduction and Enhancement , Sony NR2, Acon Digital Studio Clean and various products from Diamond Cut has shown if properly applied - you CAN get far using products available for less than $300 each.

Obviously YMMV - but to write off all of the above products without actually trying them for specific tasks is frankly a silly thing to do - considering that decent coding doesn't have to mean a premium price.

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Of course, it does depend on the specific task indeed. Some noise is easier to remove then other depending on the wanted signal.

I'm regulary dealing with more extreme cases, which is what I based my comment on that $250 won't get you far. I didn't consider he might just need light processing
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Hum reduction: better earthing and avoiding ground loops on equipment during tracking

Click: better earthing and avoiding electrostatic discharge by avoiding carpets in recording studio

In general, have your studio wired by a professional engineer that truely knows what ESI, EMI, RFI means and high-end cabling, patching and grounding should be.
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Hum reduction: better earthing and avoiding ground loops on equipment during tracking

Click: better earthing and avoiding electrostatic discharge by avoiding carpets in recording studio

In general, have your studio wired by a professional engineer that truely knows what ESI, EMI, RFI means and high-end cabling, patching and grounding should be.

Billion dollar cables.
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Obviously YMMV - but to write off all of the above products without actually trying them for specific tasks is frankly a silly thing to do - considering that decent coding doesn't have to mean a premium price.
I don't have a PC, so i don't know these products.

but on the Mac side, i am with DrDeltaM : i have YET to find a decent NR tool for under $300 if you want more than 5dB of reduction

**EXCEPT** Notch EQ (which you should always start with and never forget and use for touch ups) and Multiband-Compression (for Cat 430 emulation).....
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Hum reduction: better earthing and avoiding ground loops on equipment during tracking

Click: better earthing and avoiding electrostatic discharge by avoiding carpets in recording studio

In general, have your studio wired by a professional engineer that truely knows what ESI, EMI, RFI means and high-end cabling, patching and grounding should be.
tell this to :
  1. the video production house that recorded the interview for the industrial.
  2. the production recording crew on a cheap (no money) independent film
  3. the video guy doubling as the audio mixer
  4. the prod. crew working on a TV show where they shoot in noisy environments
  5. the documentary crew interviewing in front of a rocket launch.
  6. etc...
your points are well taken, but this is usually for things that arrive to you that you have not recorded, not for studio recordings. they are simply the reality of production.
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Serious noise removal is more of a science than an art.

If you don't have really difficult stuff to remove (someone yelling in the background or a dog barking, or a rocket launch) and just have the usual hummmm, clicks and fan/ac/computer noise - you can do very well within your budget. Look for software that can learn the noise and take care to always leave a few seconds where you aren't moving, breathing or doing anything so that you can use that for your software to learn about the noise. Also look for software that has a difference button. I usually spend about 60% of my time on this side, only listening to what I'm taking out (to make sure you're only removing noise). Also, be careful not to get swimmies, sometimes it's better to leave a tiny bit of noise in than to get a few swimmies and/or remove the acoustic room reverb.

Clicks and pops are super easy to remove, once you get the hang of it and half the time you don't even need software you can just redraw the waveform. Check your software, they might have automatic removal tools which can save some time.

Z-noise is a big step up from x-noise for these reasons. I used to get good results years ago using the noise reduction in Cool-Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition). I haven't checked out the other ones, but would if I were you, they might be better than Z-noise and then you won't have to support Waves.
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Take a look at Adobe Audition - it certainly seems better than Waves X-Noise and was better than any of the alternatives like Dcart when I last compared them (although that was a few years ago now).

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Hey all I have a vocal recording that has some clicks and pops. My computer at the time of the recording was very slow and old, so my recordings would often come out with pops. glitches and clicks.

I now have a fast new computer and new Waves software such as X-noise bundle, Z- noise bundle and the new WNS.

I would love to rescue these tracks from the click and pops.

Please help?
I tried all of the waves plugins and not one of them is working yet.
Keep in mind, I have not mastered these tools and probaly don't know the right one to use.
What do you suggest given the tools I have, which one should I use to get rid of the click, pop and glitches on this important recording.

Thank you in advance.
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Oh and by the way I am using Logic pro 9 in snow leopard.
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As an aside to all the probably wonderful suggestions here, if your time is worth anything at all, I'd suggest that those $250 would be better spent letting a professional deal with it for you so you can get on with other stuff.

In my experience noise reduction is at least as much art as science, and regardless of which requires experience to get the job done right. Maybe it's just me.

If you have a lot of spare time on your hands, there were several suggestions here that might be well worth your while.


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izotope RX ... and putting some time into it .. will give you great results ..
you'll even get some great dither options for free .. and there's a cool LP and "normal" EQ in-there ..
not only denoise .. but de-click / spectral repair / hum-removal ... just a complete package ..
Spectral repair is great for d-essing vocals in solo and full-mix tracks and cleaning up the most strange noises ... but you'll have to learn how to get the best out of it ...
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Have they cut the price of Rx?

If so, I second Wim's suggestion. Definitely worth the money (as opposed to pretty much everythinge else in this price range, IMHO), and in the right hands (i.e. practice) can produce excellent results.

But I thought the price was closer to $500, maybe I'm wrong.

Someone with a computer and internet should go to their site and check....

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Hi Thor, RX is only $ 349,- these days
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Some freeware here, won't hurt to try Christian’s Blog » Open Source
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I have about USD250.00 to spend, what is the most
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In that price range, the built in Adobe Audition noise reduction works well.
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Audition works perfectly well, but considering theres about 10 to 15% of people on these boards who are current enough with DAW's to even know 2 licks about Audition, you're not likely to hear that here. Seriously, you mention Audtion at Gearsluts and you get replies like "Oh, that program? I havent seen that since 1.5 or 2.0". Its 3.0 now of course, but the sheer number of people Ive seen here who know next to nothing about Audition is telling and scary. They'd rather blow money on Z-Noise than just get Audition.

Indeed, Audition has complete restorative effects and options that in some areas far surpass Izotope Rx.

OP, if its just one little project or batch of songs or something, Im sure one of us here could offer to try and clean it up for you. I'd be happy to try ~ just gotta highlight the waveform and press and effect - totally not rocket science. But I have Audition and have removed bumps, clicks and hums before.

Mentining Z-Noise in the same sentance as Audition 3.0 is hilarious once youve used both products. Z-Noise is not only a "not so great" noise reducer, its price is SOO out of wack compared to the entire cost of Audition that it truly exposes how overpriced Waves plugs are and how they appeal to people who like things put in front of them with a high pricetag on it.

HOLY SHIT!? $600 for Z-Noise??!! OMFG! Audition 3.0 is like $350 and Z-Noise is $600???

See, I went and checked the price to check myself. And look at that.....

How pathetic. When will people realize how overpriced Waves plugs are? $600 is pathetic considering what that little plug in does ~ which isnt jack shit! What....a......FARCE!!

No way on planet Earth is Z-Noise worth $600......Wow......Im like, depressed now. Thats freakin sad.

EDIT: Yup, Im going around checking prices for Z-Noise. $600 everywhere I look. That cant be right. I mean, that plug-in is WEAK. X-Hum and X-Crackle are actually more useable in my opinion. Talk about all that is wrong with this world.....$600 for Z-Noise is rediculous. Makes me fully want to offer to clean that audio ya got up for ya. If you dont like the results, I wont charge you a thing. If you like the results, we'll work it out. But yes, I fully offer to help you, my good man. I've got everything needed to do the job. My band/people bought the Waves Platinum set and it simply blows my mind when I see the individual price of some of these plug-ins. Blows me away.

However, if you buy Audition 3.0 you'll be set and you'll be able to clean any audio at anytime in a very, very effective manner. Whats funny, is its a full featured DAW as well that comes with effects that are better than some of the Waves plugs and again, those come built in to Audition. No, I do not work for Adobe, lol.
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Indeed, Audition has complete restorative effects and options that in some areas far surpass Izotope Rx.

Actually, the Audition noise reduction code is by Izotope, according to the Izotope
reps who gave us a demonstration last year.
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Audition is using Radius time/pitch manipulation and Multiband compressor by iZotope, but not Noise reduction.
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I recently had to restore a few vinyl recordings and I found Audition to be very effective and without a doubt significantly better than Waves X Noise (which I tried on the same material so I was able to make a direct comparison). With Audition I could remove more of the noise/hum without messing up the original recording.
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Izotope RX works GREAT - plus, it come with state-of-the art sample rate conversion, which will definitely come in handy at one point.
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Oh and by the way I am using Logic pro 9 in snow leopard.
If you have Logic Pro then you also have Soundtrack Pro where clicks and pops can be detected and then removed.
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Audition is using Radius time/pitch manipulation and Multiband compressor by iZotope, but not Noise reduction.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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