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Old 30th May 2007   #1
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question about plug-ins and loudness

For mastering - previously I used the precision limiter from the UAD-1 studio pack into a Summit DCL 200 compressor.

the trial period for the precision limiter has expired - can anyone recommend another good transparent limiter in the UAD pack?

or should i use my Amek Neve DMCL as the limiter? if so what settings make it limit as transparent as possible?


also - can anyone recommend a good spectrum analyzer that is free?
something with an average loudness meter - easy to read.

i'm basically trying to boost volume with as little digital processing as possible. is there a trick? Neve limit to summit compression? is that the answer?
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i'm basically trying to boost volume with as little digital processing as possible. is there a trick?

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thanks for the help

no thrill factor - i guess that's supposed to be a joke. why waste your time screwing around on this site if you don't have any usefull info to share.
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no thrill factor - i guess that's supposed to be a joke. why waste your time screwing around on this site if you don't have any usefull info to share.
When you do a search this some of the info you will find:

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Its really having the vision, taste and experience to help a client make judgement calls on how to best maximize their audio product and help prepare it for mass production.
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... recommend a good spectrum analyzer that is free?..
try this one...

http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com/inspector.htm

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Hiya

Are there any other limiters in the UAD plug product line?

When I do my loudness experiments the PL is last in the chain,
but I only push it with approx +3dB to +3.5. It is just there to keep the peaks at 0dB as a safety plug.

Sonnox got a good limiter.

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thanks

thanks for the info .

just what i was looking for.
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i'm basically trying to boost volume with as little digital processing as possible. is there a trick? Neve limit to summit compression? is that the answer?
Couple comments: compression ahead of limiting. And you will still want a digital limiter after the analog chain.

A good look-ahead digital limiter can react faster with vastly reduced overshoot than any analog limiter (pesky physics!). Analog can add a pleasing coloration, but a good digital limiter will have the edge for transparency.

Even if you decide to use barely any limiting, or even none, you still will want to be able to use the limiter to set a digital output ceiling (usually -0.3 dB FS) to avoid clipping in the analog output stages of consumer playback devices after it leaves your hands.

The best "trick" is to have great monitoring in a great room so you can make well-informed critical decisions, great equipment (in mastering the expensive stuff really does tend to be better than the cheaper stuff), and of course, experience. There's no substitute for that, whether mastering, recording, performing, taking out a spleen, or giving a haircut. Luckily only the spleen job could kill you if done badly.

Happy listening!
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thanks for the info .

just what i was looking for.

I would have asked did you use any nice hardware preamps tracking that gives off nice loud harmonic distortion , but you are using plugins....o i forgot they have no transformers dfegad
what a bummer.
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