Waves PAZ Analyzer settings?

edIT · 15th April 2007

I would like to know what is the setting that is generally used in PAZ Analyzer for analyzing RMS levels. I generally have mine set to "detect" RMS with a response of 500, LF res: 20 hz and "Flat" weight. Changing the response and weight will yield widely different results in measuring RMS. I am not sure if the Waves PAZ is the best way to measure RMS levels but it's all I've got. I was wondering if there is an industry standard setting when using this plugin?

Ravian · 15th April 2007

i find the waves paz inaccuret.

VU meter balistics are 300.

just my 00,02 cents

Jerry Tubb · 16th April 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by edIT

I was wondering if there is an industry standard setting when using this plugin?

No I don't think there's an industry standard setting for PAZ,
just whatever works for you, depending on the situation and what you're analyzing.

Here's my default settings:

detection: RMS - occasionally Peak
LF res: 10 Hz for 44.1/48k, 20 Hz for 88.2/96k
Weighting: Flat (unweighted)
Response: 300
Show: L/R split
Peak Hold: On

Of course, any analyzer should be used sparingly, Ears & Monitors have priority over the visuals.

JT

UnderTow · 16th April 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb

LF res: 10 Hz for 44.1/48k, 20 Hz for 88.2/96k

What is your reasoning on using a different LF res for higher sampling rates?

Alistair

Jerry Tubb · 16th April 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderTow

What is your reasoning on using a different LF res for higher sampling rates?

Aha! I thought someone might catch that.

The PAZ won't resolve lower than 20Hz on the higher Fs, something in the design.

I would certainly prefer 10 Hz if it were available.

I'd like to see Waves update some of their old plugs, rather than release dozens of new ones, but that's a diff subject.

I also have RND's Inspector XL suite of analyzers, it is far superior...

but I've been using the PAZ for a decade as an EZ default.

JT

Ravian · 16th April 2007

+1 for inspector xl

dcollins · 17th April 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by edIT

I would like to know what is the setting that is generally used in PAZ Analyzer for analyzing RMS levels.

I recommend the "off" setting.

Stop analyzing.

DC

UnderTow · 18th April 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb

Aha! I thought someone might catch that.

The PAZ won't resolve lower than 20Hz on the higher Fs, something in the design.

JT

Aha! And there I was thinking you had some voodoo knowledge secretely guarded from us mere mortals.

Alistair

Fishy1500 · 15th October 2008

Ah, I just tried setting one of my projects to 88.2 and the first thing that I noticed was that PAZ Analyzer's LF res only goes down to 20Hz. What are some good alternatives to the PAZ Analyzer that you've found to be useful?

macc · 15th October 2008

Voxengo SPAN
BlueCat FreqAnalyst (new and pretty good it seems)
And of course, 'off'.

Alécio Costa · 15th October 2008

I use Paz along with Digidesign GAIN Audiosuite plugin. There you can measure Peak and RMS.

The RND is so small you can hardly see the frequencies with accuracy.

Spectrafoo was great.

Fishy1500 · 16th October 2008

hmm, all of these don't seem to be available as Audio Units. Are there any good ones in AU format?

crdashow · 12th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderTow

Aha! And there I was thinking you had some voodoo knowledge secretely guarded from us mere mortals.

Alistair

Sorry but it goes as low as 10 if you click the number it goes from 40 to 20 to 10

crdashow · 12th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb

Aha! I thought someone might catch that.

The PAZ won't resolve lower than 20Hz on the higher Fs, something in the design.

I would certainly prefer 10 Hz if it were available.

I'd like to see Waves update some of their old plugs, rather than release dozens of new ones, but that's a diff subject.

I also have RND's Inspector XL suite of analyzers, it is far superior...

but I've been using the PAZ for a decade as an EZ default.

JT

The 10 Hz is available if you click the Hz button on the plugin. it goes from 40hz to 20hz to 10hz. I always set mine to 10hz and RMS

crdashow · 12th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravian

i find the waves paz inaccuret.

VU meter balistics are 300.

just my 00,02 cents

The RMS is the VU

DamZ · 13th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by crdashow

The RMS is the VU

VU is an audio metering standard

RMS is different

Jerry Tubb · 14th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by crdashow

The 10 Hz is available if you click the Hz button on the plugin. it goes from 40hz to 20hz to 10hz. I always set mine to 10hz and RMS

Yeah, I know.

In an above post, I explain that the 10Hz setting doesn't engage for higher sampling rates 88.2 and 96k.
At least in PT HD, the lowest it goes is 20Hz, haven't tried PAZ with anything else.

Experience & Ears with a good Room & Monitoring are the best analyzers.

Best, JT

15th April 2007	#1
edIT Gear addict Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 393 Thread Starter	Waves PAZ Analyzer settings? I would like to know what is the setting that is generally used in PAZ Analyzer for analyzing RMS levels. I generally have mine set to "detect" RMS with a response of 500, LF res: 20 hz and "Flat" weight. Changing the response and weight will yield widely different results in measuring RMS. I am not sure if the Waves PAZ is the best way to measure RMS levels but it's all I've got. I was wondering if there is an industry standard setting when using this plugin? __________________ edIT (The Glitch Mob, Alpha Pup, Planet-Mu) http://www.facebook.com/edITmusic http://www.facebook.com/theglitchmobmusic

15th October 2008	#11
Alécio Costa Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil, Florianópolis/SC Posts: 1,734 Verified Member	I use Paz along with Digidesign GAIN Audiosuite plugin. There you can measure Peak and RMS. The RND is so small you can hardly see the frequencies with accuracy. Spectrafoo was great. __________________ Alécio Costa Studio www.aleciocosta.com http://www.facebook.com/alecio.costa Artist career at: http://www.audiostreet.net/aleciocosta http://www.myspace.com/aleciocosta

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15th April 2007	#2
Ravian Gear addict Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 435	i find the waves paz inaccuret. VU meter balistics are 300. just my 00,02 cents

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Ravian Gear addict Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 435	+1 for inspector xl

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