iZotope oZone

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by Krank

To sum up, is it fair to assume that Ozone is among the very best software solutions for limiting and dither? I wish I was able to use the L2007 for comparison - anyone know the status of an AU version?

I am not allowed to talk about it.. but its not

[Lagerfeldt]

Check this thread
Limiter comparisons (with sound)

Surprisingly the Ozone is #1 for me in this test (Matt did the Ozone file) so far. Followed by Sonnox Oxford and Flux Pure Limiter.

Don't settle on only one limiter but get two or three and switch according to style and type of job. The Sonnox Oxford is very flexible and can do amazing stuff with transients so get Ozone + Sonnox Oxford Limiter.

[George Necola]

Ì dont like the ozone myself.

if you give me some time I can supply TC M6000 limiter, weiss limiter and maybe old school dynamite (analog) limited stuff..

but that would be comparing apples and oranges..

[Lagerfeldt]

It's funny, I too actually didn't like Ozone.

I downloaded and tested it and discarded it shortly after. But it obviously has its uses as this test proved to me.

I think it only proves that there's no 1 greatest piece of equipment for all jobs.

Right now I'm using Sonnox Oxford and Flux Pure Limiter.

[MattGray]

Originally Posted by George Necola

Ì dont like the ozone myself.

if you give me some time I can supply TC M6000 limiter, weiss limiter and maybe old school dynamite (analog) limited stuff..

but that would be comparing apples and oranges..

As with any piece of gear the limiter module features are quite extensive. Just with the 'Mode' setting there is 3 choices 'Soft', 'Brickwall' & 'Intelligent', I rarely use the first 2 & stick with the 'Intelligent' mode. Then within the 'Intelligent' mode there is 6 different characters & the sound can change with 0.1 incremental settings. The range of sounds & character is miles apart from 0.0 to 10.0. You have to be careful when you evaluate Ozone's limiter that you don't just try a couple of quick settings (or God forbid the presets) that you don't discard it too quickly. Some people are turned off by the complexity of choices available. I look at it as 10 very different sounding limiters rolled into one interface, there is rarely a time I have to look to a different limiter for any style of music or task. 99% of the time there is a setting in Ozone that will beat the competition.

No one can dispute the coding on this plug either, with 64bit floating point internal headroom it is very clean from unwanted nasties & the dither module is a beautiful thing. You only have to look at this blind dither shootout to see the clear winner 24-96 Mastering - Dither

I should get commission for selling Ozone to the masses... if only!

[Krank]

Originally Posted by MattGray

You only have to look at this blind dither shootout to see the clear winner 24-96 Mastering - Dither

Ozone doesn't even figure there - or am I missing something?

[aivoryuk]

Originally Posted by Krank

Ozone doesn't even figure there - or am I missing something?

yeah it is, its called megabitmax`, the one with 90 and 480 votes

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by MattGray

You only have to look at this blind dither shootout to see the clear winner 24-96 Mastering - Dither

I should get commission for selling Ozone to the masses... if only!

I will make an excel table soon.. with a clear winner and post it on the internet

and provide a link of course

shaky, everythin in the net is true.

CMC Magazine: The Last Link: Utopian Visions of Cyberspace

=> linked article is from 10 years ago.. remember that..

[MattGray]

Originally Posted by Krank

Ozone doesn't even figure there - or am I missing something?

Yes MegaBitMax or MBIT+ is the dither that iZotope Ozone uses.

Matt

[MattGray]

Originally Posted by George Necola

I will make an excel table soon.. with a clear winner and post it on the internet

This is Robin Schmidt's site, he is very well respected amongst the mastering community & decided it would be a good idea to do a blind dither shootout. You can still download the files & do this test. It is not a trick or simply an excel table with a clear winner...

I know you can't believe everything on the net, but a bit of research will show you that these results are legitimate.

Matt

[audiocasa]

Hi Matt! Ive been using the L2 for a long time until now.hard testing and comparing L2,L3,PSPvw,Voxengo elephant and ozone limiter. I must say the ozone limiter is the new kid on the buss, goodbye L2 and welcome also voxengo elephant.

regards Mikael/ studio Audo casa sweden.

[thermos]

Originally Posted by George Necola

I am not allowed to talk about it.. but its not

You are talking about the forthcoming Sonalksis limiter, or the PSP one? I can't wait to hear both of those.

[jayjohnsonit]

The ozone limiter sounds good. Listen to it. L2 and L3, as well as PSP reduce the stereo spread and depth.

[Ninja Mike 808]

Here's a tip I learned in class today...

Try using a bus/send. Who knows, it might work... Generally if you have 1 plug-in on every track it's gonna eat up much more than just 1 plug-in on 1 track. How ever, I would suspect that only works when you add reverb or echo... As far as adding the limiter goes, you're prolly gonna need a new computer. If you have a 1ghz processor for ProTools mastering you're gonna have loads of problems...

Who knows, though, there's always 1 guy that made it work.

[PistolP]

Originally Posted by Jamz0r

Lots of people love to bash any mastering ITB, but as someone who owns and uses Ozone 3, I find it to do a very good job as long as you stay away from presets, don't overprocess, and use your ears while making adjustments.

excactly my point. coz it can improve any good mix if needed. besides using it on stems is cool

Originally Posted by Killahurts

I don't use it for final masters (I get that done by real ME's), but I do use the brickwall limiter on songs while I'm working on albums,

it would make more sence to get your mix sounding loud puncy and clear and GOOD without putting it on. I used to do it as well but now I think it is completely irrelevant even stupid. Coz the better the mix the less you or ME will need to limit.


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[smoke]

Haven't had any stability problems on my G5 dual 2.5...

Ozone works well in some situations, in others I realized that it ruined the natural width of certain sounds, and also can have a slightly "tin" or nasal sound. I don't use it for warm, retro sounding tracks.

Has anyone noticed how it narrows the field, or am I doing something wrong. I generally don't touch stereo widening tools, and would hate to have to fix that in Ozone to make up for using the exciter.

[highsage]

holy hell i just took that dither test at 24-96 Mastering - Dither
and I ended up picking the MegaBitMax Ultra as well!

However, I think that may simply be because it was the 'quietest' noise of the bunch. The character, while pleasant did not have the same amount of warmth as some of the others, but it was certainly the quietest of the bunch.

[Superdisc]

I use Ozone a lot and am amazed at the performance at it's price.

I love the spectrum analyzer and the EQ. I like the sound of the analog EQ for "correction" (meaning pulling out instruments that were mixed low or dull). I also like the shelf response it has. Foir real surgery I use the digital mode.

I think that the parameter settings are much more critial when you get to a certain level of quality and I think Ozone is of that quality. I really appreciate the display - which seems highly accurate (unlike WAVES).

I use the brickwall limiter when I want to use a brickwall limiter and it seems to sound better than the WAVES L1 by far. I use it with super-fast release (saturation style)

I find the multi-band EQ also a nice corrective tool, but would never think of using it as my main limiter. The limiting sounds relatively good, but there's much better out there.

Stereo imagry OK - Dither OK but I'd pretty much throw out the reverb and the exciter.

Anyway it's all; IMO

Bob

[camerondye]

I like the fact that even though that ozone 4 is coming out tomorrow that it still is at the top of the heap on limiter and dither. It pretty much rocks. And the new one will have mid side functions which will give more options for different kinds of music plus updates to the limiter which is super cool. Go Izotope...
cam

[smoke]

Originally Posted by camerondye

I like the fact that even though that ozone 4 is coming out tomorrow that it still is at the top of the heap on limiter and dither. It pretty much rocks. And the new one will have mid side functions which will give more options for different kinds of music plus updates to the limiter which is super cool. Go Izotope...
cam

Have you seen the new interface? It hasn't changed much. Looks like they enhanced a few features, but didn't overhaul the entire suite. I think that is a good thing. They are confident in what they have.

$99 can't go wrong, or if it's so good, just stick with what I have? It's not broke etc. One could buy Elephant for the same price, and have another limiting option.

[kjrife]

I use Izope Ozone 4 with Pro Tools 8 with no problems what so ever, but then, I don't use a Mac either. I use a Intel Quad Zenor. Cruises right along with out any hiccupsdfegad