Vlado Meller rocks.....

[punisher]

Originally Posted by lucey

Folks I'd be happy to be seen as 'competing' with anyone at any time .... but I'd appreciate the same mix file to work from before you get out your robes and gavels

It isn't your right to ask for anything here. Lindell wasn't asking for submissions. Your actions stink of desperation.

Bottom line is you still couldn't even come close to Vlado's let alone better it.

Accept it. You are and will never be anything more than some dude from one of the flyover states with a bad attitude.

As much "notoriety" as you try to weave around yourself, despite this, you achieve nothing other than to position yourself as a failure.

You are the Wil E. Coyote of this place. You keep getting hammered and just doesn't know when to quit and get played like a fiddle.

You can't throw money at this issue of yours. If anything you're probably gonna hurt the sales of Elysia compressors.

[djui5]

Originally Posted by lucey

but I'd appreciate the same mix file to work from before you get out your robes and gavels

You're the one who "mastered" it, no one asked you to Lucey. That's what your brick wall of a head isn't understanding...

[Labs]

Originally Posted by lucey

Right on Marteen, you have a music lovers mentality and a strong sense of self. You are not identified with your work, it's just work, to share and compare and improve. A very healthy approach. Then there are the power lovers, clique heads, and other politicos that are identified with their work and the social pyramid of credibility, and thus promote the same. Self-promotion? Yes it is.




Coming from your pious examples in the past those words cut, um ... dull? It's amazing how morally righteous some folks get when anything challenges their norms of conduct. And to agree with your excellent point ... why are you not asking Lindell to post these song files elsewhere in the first place? By your own standards this thread was self-congratulations and self-promotion from the get go. "Look at my mix and master by VM for $495/hr." Suddenly I'm at fault? Interesting. You defend your clique, and thus miss your hypocrisy.
.

Ah! more turd-speak.

Gustav

[lucey]

Yawn.

[djui5]

Originally Posted by lucey

Yawn.

+1.....

[doorknocker]

Originally Posted by lucey

By your own standards this thread was self-congratulations and self-promotion from the get go. "Look at my mix and master by VM for $495/hr." Suddenly I'm at fault?

Lindell DIDN'T mention the price of the mastering job in his first post. He only did so after being asked about it. So yes, you're very much at fault!

You're changing the facts to justify your failed self-promotional attempts.

I have only one guess and that's a bad case of jealousy on your part.

[lucey]

Originally Posted by doorknocker

I have only one guess and that's a bad case of jealousy on your part.

Hardly true. Again, read my post on projections, and protecting the social pyramid ... you guys are all doing it. Assuming an attack, assuming jealousy, assuming whatever baggage you're carrying around in your own head. Do I want to live in or around NYC or any major city? No thanks. Do I want to be known for smashing and thus be asked to smash most of the time? No thanks. To be separated from some of the little known artists that seek out lower budget alternatives? No way.

If you want a "wanna be" NYC top dog look up Punisher, or Jack the Bear. I'm quite happy to be a "nobody" in a "flyover state" thank you.





Folks I have the utmost respect for all MEs, like their work or not, and absolutlely zero jealousy. I meant no disrespect here. My point was and is that the music and mix are what defines and sells this tune when both are strong, and what the public will hear. When the mastering manhandles a thing, that's more credit to the ME ... but this was well done initially.






Can we talk about something else, or do you all feel more secure when shitting on someone else for entertainment? Pretty sad really.

[Labs]

Originally Posted by lucey

Hardly. Again, read my post on projections, and protecting the social pyramid ... you guys are all doing it. Assuming an attack, assuming jealousy, assuming whatever baggage you're carrying around in your own head.

hey lucey. Its good to hear you are reading self-help books.


Gustav

[robot gigante]

Originally Posted by lucey

As for the idea of "spam" Robot, you have a narrow and vindictive defintion at work here. We could all easily call 'spam' on the advice and opinions made in many other threads by each of the more venomous posters in this thread, yet I accept that some element of self-promotion and clique promotion is par for the course on the forums. My Mic is best, my Pre Amp best. I like my ME best. I defend my friend the ME because he's in my clique and that's good for us all. I dont bother with negative emotions/police work when these posts come up, and they are everywhere. Some people are more subtle about self-promotion, but it's all the same thing, and it's totally fine with me. It could also be seen as enthusiam, friendship, sharing, taste, or a host of other things. There are many ways to look at it thaty dont require definitive assumptions and personal bashing.

Look, I've never criticised you before, and will never do so again if I don't see behaviour like this.

How's this for a definition of 'spam': an unsolicited promotion of your own services and going so far as to mention how much you'd charge.

So if we were talking about a piece of gear it would akin to saying 'try this thing vs what the original poster is so happy about, this is the sound of it and you can buy it at my shop for $xxxx.'

That's not tolerated from the gear pimps most of the time, and personally I think they could excercise more restraint also. It shouldn't be tolerated from anyone else. My advice is to bite the bullet on this one and just excercise more restraint in the future.

Sorry for being so impolite on this thread.

[lucey]

Originally Posted by lucey

And that master is not smashed much by the standard of say, Audioslave or Californication. I'd guess he does what people want ... service, more than a "sound".

Originally Posted by djui5

Why is everyone saying it's so slammed? Look at this...I borrowed it from another forum, hope it's ok. It's Californication by RHCP

I agreed with you, making that point in the first part of my first post - that you skipped - straight to bashing.


And how dare you insult the RHCP and VM by calling that record slammed!?! Who are you to have anything negative to say about them ? Flyover desert mixer! (just kidding)

[lucey]

Originally Posted by robot gigante

That's not tolerated from the gear pimps most of the time, and personally I think they could excercise more restraint also. It shouldn't be tolerated from anyone else. My advice is to bite the bullet on this one and just excercise more restraint in the future.

Sorry for being so impolite on this thread.

I agree, and I do apologise. My intended point wasn't about price at all ... but about the value of any mastering to the public vs. the value of it to the client in the case of a good mix.

I will refrain from what see as 'advertising' in conversation, and thanks for your kind explanation.

[joeaudio]

Originally Posted by phild

This is the DTC that was co-designed by Graham Boswell and the Prism Sound team.
I have a manual for one around here somewhere - as Lacquer Channel where close to buying one at some point.

The competitors where the Sony SDP-1000 (which we still have) and the Weiss BW102 (which we still have in the way of SRC's and a few other cards)

I've only ever seen 2 DTC's up close - Vlado's and George Marino's.

The Hit Factory had three of them( Neve DTC's that is). The last one finally put out of service
around 2002.
Over $100,000 when new, I believe.
Expensive digital boat anchors, down in the deep with all the Sony Digital
multitracks.
Bit of a shame, I guess.

Joe

[SMC Productions]

Originally Posted by aivoryuk

whats the name of the band i really like the song I'd like to purchase it when its available

Me 2!

I really like what I heard!

Is the rest of the 'album' similar styled?

[brendondp]

A kick drum, floor tom and cymbal fall off a cliff...

BAH-DumPISSSHHHHH!

(That's an attempt at a joke, folks! A bit of light relief for the thread - did it work?)

Love your work,

bdp

[baikonour]

Originally Posted by SMC Productions

Me 2!

I really like what I heard!

Is the rest of the 'album' similar styled?

Yes it's ABBA's "greatest hits" sang by Ian Asburry

We've aimed for the hair receding 80's hard rock fan with a taste for swedish pop.

[baikonour]

Originally Posted by SMC Productions

Me 2!

I really like what I heard!

Is the rest of the 'album' similar styled?

Yes it's ABBA's "greatest hits" sang by Ian Asburry

We've aimed for the hair receding 80's hard rock fan with a taste for swedish pop.

[baikonour]

This thread is hilarious though except for my previous post...

[robot gigante]

Originally Posted by ed littman

Have you guys AB'd the before & after at the same volume level?

I did, & took note that although the verse is at a lower level in relation to the intro compared to the original due to the level/clipping, IMO the tone was improved. He added a bit more snap into the kick in the intro & shifted the focus from the low end to the mids/guitars in the verse. the top end is a bit spacemonkyish but that's most likly due to the mp3.

My observations are subjective, but in know way does this example reflect total destruction that should warrent an ...Oh mY!!...type of rection.
although the fees should!!

Ed

I did that too.

The way Vlado tightened the track up and what he did for the mids was really nice- he just brought a good mix to where it should be. I'd like to hear the wav version if that's possible to hear the difference in the top end a little better.

I think it's all about the midrange and he did a great job with that- no sag.

[Mr.Silver]

Originally Posted by SMC Productions

Me 2!

I really like what I heard!

Is the rest of the 'album' similar styled?

The name of the band is Mustasch... they're from Gothenburg, Sweden.
They're a really great band...check them out @.....


http://www.mustasch.net/index.html



Cheers

//Silver

[Lindell]

Originally Posted by Mr.Silver;1097073

[url

http://www.mustasch.net/index.html[/url]

[Riccardo]

Originally Posted by Lindell

Hey! That's not fair. I want that smiley too!

[mattssons]

Is that band MUSTACH ? Great work / Tobias Mattson

[Lindell]

OK, a snippet is up on the bands web site: http://www.mustasch.net/audio/Mustas...re(sample).mp3

.

[lucey]

Originally Posted by Masterer

Huh? Never been called pious before. You sure you know what it means? I'm glad you've found my past pious words, um.... exciting. I really don't think you know what pious means.

sarcasm ...

Originally Posted by Masterer

I'm not sure what you do for a living Brian. I tried to check out some of your work but I could only find a handfull of credits spread out over a handfull of years, so I'm assuming you're an avid hobbyist or a beginner.

Apparently you need a lot of attention or maybe you're upset that no one asks you for your opinion - you seem to have a compulsion to force it on people. Whatever the case, you'd probably be treated with more respect if you treated your "peers" with respect. I get the feeling this forum is important to you. Don't get yourself kicked off this one too.

If you feel like you get attacked a lot here you might consider your own conduct. If it happens often you must consider the possibility that it might actually be you and not everyone else that is the problem.

If we're giving unsolicited advice, I wish you'd go back to the nicer guy you were for the first few weeks last year when you arrived.

I respect character, not credits. For example I was kind and open to you at one point, and you betrayed that trust for quick power the first chance you had. You're also one of those politicos who insults people online but wont respond to PM. Jack/Punisher is the same way ... totally happy to insult online, but wont PM to keep the board clean. So to me you're only a ME with credits, nothing more. And you can't take em with you! Add to that I've never knowingly heard any of your records or heard of you before this board ... and even if I had, what would it mean? Character makes it, not credits. I assume you're totally capable as you work at Sterling so please take no offense, but you're a nobody to me just as much as I'm a nobody to you.

Let's clarify what I do for a living ... around 70% is made in the mastering studio (or consulting with mixers at their studios), if you must insult and pry. My wife and I also record a few records per year using a tricked out 2" rig that we own mostly for ourselves. We're both musicians who like great tone and put the emphasis on artists and the front end, not the engineering. She does the tracking and I mix. If you want to hear any mastering or mixing I've done, just PM or call. We also trade our own stocks a few hours per week, and I spend a few hours per week at my family's interior design firm working with the family just as all of my siblings do. My wife also designs clothes that sell retail and at music festivals nationwide. She's had work on the cover of Rolling Stone and Time, but never made a dime from it as the NYC firms ripped off her original designs. Actually a lot of her work has been ripped off by corporate firms, that's fashion for you. We're both artists in business, not looking to take over the world with impressive credits, or to make huge money in anything. We honor necessity and sufficiency, respecting truth and beauty. Not politics, image or power.

I've always resisted relying on the music business for main income, partly for the reasons that a thread like this makes clear ... it's full of some unhealthy people with power agendas in a field that I hold in high regard. But over time, you do something well and you love it, then you do it more and more.


As for credits ... seemingly your one way of judging: My mastering credits are mostly with up and comers from all over the world, some are local, most are not. My work is a balance of quality and valule that works for the people I like to work with and who like to work with me. Some artists are on small labels or often on no label. Certainly the major label music is no better than much of what I'm blessed to master, so nothing to be ashamed of there. And as a result, not a lot of credits to point someone like yourself to. I did work for a number of major label artists' last year, a multiple Grammy winner last month, and one gold record producer comes by when he's on a budget. If you really want to know these clients and are not just being insulting for your own aims, you can call me for more details. The number is on my website. I wouldn't want to name drop oterwise, as I'd get shit for that and rightly so.

Coming up as an artist I made a living in NYC at 19 as a rock guitarist and singer, then studied music with an international school. I used to think that top level mastering was far too expensive and that mid level mastering was either too conservative or not co-creative enough. My business exists now to be the mastering that wasn't available to me then. My goal is to get people a great mastering job for a very reasonable price, and it grows every year. I surely dont need this board, and didn't ask to be attacked or misunderstood in this thread. My point was that Mellers mastering was overvalued in this case.

Do you disagree that the music and the mixing are far more important than the mastering in the case of a good mix?


As for this board in general, sadly it's less enjoyable in the last 6 months as the posturing from many has become part of the landscape so common to other web boards. At first you were friendly and cool for example, then you got into the power of it all. It's unfortunate how much ass kissing and posturing goes on. I'm all about music myself. It's simple really. My passion for music is greater than my passion to look good to everyone or to impress everyone, etc. I'm not here to make friends and influence people, just to share and compare towards the aim of better music with whomever happens along.

You have no basis to give me tips on behaviour or to judge anything I do here, as your contributions to this board have been more negative than positive in my view. You are of course free to post anything you can get away with, but I wish that you (as well as a few other supposedly more experienced people) would posture less and share more. That would take both courage and compassion, and since I dont know you in reality, I'm not sure what's possible there. In my world experience is who you are, not the artists you've worked with. So far I'm not getting a lot of positive from you, and I see a few others feeling the same way on occasion. But you have friends, and power, so I guess you want to play it like that.


All the best