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18th December 2006
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Ribbon Mics?

HI GUYS!
Anyone work with the following stuff?

AEA R84
Golden Age Project R1 aktiv
Oktava ML52


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I have a modified ML52 (Lundahl transformer and physical modifications from a Tape Op issue a while back). It's interesting, but currently it doesn't get a whole lot of use. It has a dark character that gets a lot of the lower midrange detail. Mine doesn't handle the loud spl's well, another might do better. The housing material and cage rings badly. Rather good on trumpet (minus the spl issue). Not bad on saxophone and other sources but with all the modifications, there's probably better options that wouldn't cost as much time or effort. If your like me though, the modifications are have the fun.

I also have a APEX 210 Ribbon (modified with a Cinemag transformer and removal of protective screening) that seems to do a better job at most things. Though I won't be giving up the ML52 any time soon.
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AEA84... I'm REALLY impressed with this mic... Has great high end for a ribbon,... or for a lot of mics really.
If you're working with quiet sources, you'll need lots of gain... helps to have impedance adjustment on pre...

What would you use it for?
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I think for a low ender that an AEA R92 will get you a lot more mileage. It looks cool. It seems more versatile than other ribbons to me.
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really liked the R84
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AEA84... I'm REALLY impressed with this mic... Has great high end for a ribbon,... or for a lot of mics really.
If you're working with quiet sources, you'll need lots of gain... helps to have impedance adjustment on pre...

What would you use it for?
Yes i know! My pre at this time is A-Designs MP2, Voxbox and Focusrite Octopre + all Uad1 plugs.
I want to see how works on vocal. 1 month i should record a second CD from a guy he has a thin voice. For 3month we recorded a CD on a Brauner Phantom C with all Voxbox stuff. But it was not really fantastic to me. The Brauner was very hard on this voice. Is good for Rap. So i will check it out with a ribbon mic.
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I have a modified ML52 (Lundahl transformer and physical modifications from a Tape Op issue a while back). It's interesting, but currently it doesn't get a whole lot of use. It has a dark character that gets a lot of the lower midrange detail. Mine doesn't handle the loud spl's well, another might do better. The housing material and cage rings badly. Rather good on trumpet (minus the spl issue). Not bad on saxophone and other sources but with all the modifications, there's probably better options that wouldn't cost as much time or effort. If your like me though, the modifications are have the fun.

I also have a APEX 210 Ribbon (modified with a Cinemag transformer and removal of protective screening) that seems to do a better job at most things. Though I won't be giving up the ML52 any time soon.

I let it go i think and buy another!
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I love the R84, period. Very versatile ribbon with a depth to it and bigness I enjoy. The top end is surprisingly "sweet" as well, and takes EQ very well.

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Another vote for r84, since I got it close to a year ago I haven't really been reaching for other mics so much, it just works (for me)
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I let it go i think and buy another!
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Huh?
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I have a modified ML52 (Lundahl transformer and physical modifications from a Tape Op issue a while back). It's interesting, but currently it doesn't get a whole lot of use. It has a dark character that gets a lot of the lower midrange detail. Mine doesn't handle the loud spl's well, another might do better. The housing material and cage rings badly. Rather good on trumpet (minus the spl issue). Not bad on saxophone and other sources but with all the modifications, there's probably better options that wouldn't cost as much time or effort. If your like me though, the modifications are have the fun.

I also have a APEX 210 Ribbon (modified with a Cinemag transformer and removal of protective screening) that seems to do a better job at most things. Though I won't be giving up the ML52 any time soon.
HI qbert1 !
Thanks for this information!
Had bought an aktiv riboon mic and a Lundahl transformer, so can you tell me where i put the transformer? I think to put it before the XLR out ?
Your thread inspired me to upgrade my new ribbon!
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I always put up a ribbon on guitar cabs, right next to a sm57, or i5. (Plus a room mic, but that's another thread.) When it's time to mix, one might sound better than the other, or a blend might work, or you might use the ribbon in the verses and the 57/i5 in the chorus or solo. It's nice to have options.
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I always put up a ribbon on guitar cabs, right next to a sm57, or i5. (Plus a room mic, but that's another thread.) When it's time to mix, one might sound better than the other, or a blend might work, or you might use the ribbon in the verses and the 57/i5 in the chorus or solo. It's nice to have options.
Yes, in few weeks i will try it (on guitar cabs) with one SM57 and one aktiv ribbon through an A-Designs Pre.
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My ML52 had insane low end - which was nice for a room mic....but it was not very useful on most sources. In the end I sold it.
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I've worked with the AEA R84. Great mic all the way around. It's become my go-to mic for vocals.
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I always put up a ribbon on guitar cabs, right next to a sm57, or i5. (Plus a room mic, but that's another thread.) When it's time to mix, one might sound better than the other, or a blend might work, or you might use the ribbon in the verses and the 57/i5 in the chorus or solo. It's nice to have options.
So you place the ribbon exactly next to the 57 for double micing an amp? SO both the mics are facing towards the same speaker? Rather than 2 mics sperated facing at each speaker respectively?
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Yes i know! My pre at this time is A-Designs MP2, Voxbox and Focusrite Octopre + all Uad1 plugs.
I want to see how works on vocal. 1 month i should record a second CD from a guy he has a thin voice. For 3month we recorded a CD on a Brauner Phantom C with all Voxbox stuff. But it was not really fantastic to me. The Brauner was very hard on this voice. Is good for Rap. So i will check it out with a ribbon mic.
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the 84 will definately thicken up a thin voice. definately!
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