Black Lion Mod or...

somsto75 · 22nd November 2006

these BL mod's have been the talk of the town, so I wanted to ask everybody, out of curiosity, how they'd feel about the mod's in comparascent to other alternatives.

So let's say you have the option of modding a Motu 192, which is on their list, and along with the mod you get a high quality 3rd party clock since BL doesn;t do the clock on the 192 and keep all that just under $3k give or take. Would you go with that or with getting a set of converters that alone cost $3k or more like mytek, aurora, apogee, etc?

i think its an important question because it seems to investigate whether or not the BL mod's are a nice "poor man's" alternative only, meaning, since you dont have the dough,it can theoretically only get better or are they inherently great mod's that can compete with the big boys?

cdog · 22nd November 2006

I would get high end converters and pres to start with, but thats just me.

If you're not making $$,$$$ off your studio, stick with the stock MOTU.

If you want to invest more $$,$$$ in your already profitable studio, go for high end.

Apogee, Lavry, Mytek etc....

I've never heard the mods.

somsto75 · 22nd November 2006

ok cool, thanks for your opinion and response cdog. can i ask what do you use?

Keep 'em coming everybody...

uncle duncan · 22nd November 2006

I got the mod on a motu 2408, which is clocked with a lucid genx6, and the sound seems to be a bit more focused. If you've already got the 192, your options are: mod it, or sell it at a loss and buy something new for way more money. If you're spending way more money, would your sound benefit from the barely perceptible difference better convertors would impart, or would your sound benefit from a couple of new mics? I think the BL mod is fine for project studio work, especially considering all the grammy winning albums that have been recorded on less than stellar equipment. After all, it's supposed to be about the music.

somsto75 · 22nd November 2006

interesting uncle duncan... so you're basically saying from the range of the motu 192 and the slightly pricer converters in the 3k range there isn't that much of a difference. and that any real difference is seen in the 8-10k range converter wise, so why invest in the slightly pricer when the real difference within that budget range would be to just buy better mic's.

uncle duncan · 22nd November 2006

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Originally Posted by somsto75

interesting uncle duncan... so you're basically saying from the range of the motu 192 and the slightly pricer converters in the 3k range there isn't that much of a difference.

As long as you get the mod. I'm sure others will disagree. The ultimate bottleneck for you sound quality will be the convertors, but the most immediate improvement will probably be mics, and then pres, unless you already have the mic/pre thing covered.

somsto75 · 23rd November 2006

ok, so thats another opinion for mod'ed 192. ive been hearing a few saying the same thing that a mod'ed 192 is comparable to certain higher end converters

22nd November 2006	#1
somsto75 Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oimpit suburbia Posts: 264 Thread Starter	Black Lion Mod or... these BL mod's have been the talk of the town, so I wanted to ask everybody, out of curiosity, how they'd feel about the mod's in comparascent to other alternatives. So let's say you have the option of modding a Motu 192, which is on their list, and along with the mod you get a high quality 3rd party clock since BL doesn;t do the clock on the 192 and keep all that just under $3k give or take. Would you go with that or with getting a set of converters that alone cost $3k or more like mytek, aurora, apogee, etc? i think its an important question because it seems to investigate whether or not the BL mod's are a nice "poor man's" alternative only, meaning, since you dont have the dough,it can theoretically only get better or are they inherently great mod's that can compete with the big boys?

22nd November 2006	#4
uncle duncan Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,585	I got the mod on a motu 2408, which is clocked with a lucid genx6, and the sound seems to be a bit more focused. If you've already got the 192, your options are: mod it, or sell it at a loss and buy something new for way more money. If you're spending way more money, would your sound benefit from the barely perceptible difference better convertors would impart, or would your sound benefit from a couple of new mics? I think the BL mod is fine for project studio work, especially considering all the grammy winning albums that have been recorded on less than stellar equipment. After all, it's supposed to be about the music. __________________ "You're either with a native DAW, or you're with the terrorists." G.W. Busch Lite

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22nd November 2006	#2
cdog Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 3,437 3 Reviews written	I would get high end converters and pres to start with, but thats just me. If you're not making $$,$$$ off your studio, stick with the stock MOTU. If you want to invest more $$,$$$ in your already profitable studio, go for high end. Apogee, Lavry, Mytek etc.... I've never heard the mods.

23rd November 2006	#7
somsto75 Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oimpit suburbia Posts: 264 Thread Starter	ok, so thats another opinion for mod'ed 192. ive been hearing a few saying the same thing that a mod'ed 192 is comparable to certain higher end converters