Thomann Ribbon mic ROCKS

[David-Morpheus]

I have just ordered 2 RB500 and 2 RM700 from thomann today

My live room is beeing rebuilt at the moment so the next drum tracking will be in february but anyway I will send some samples then

[megl]

The RB 700 looks very much like a Cascade Fat Head II - doesn't it?

/megl

[David-Morpheus]

well the inspiration that led to the RB 700 is quite clear

[megl]

Originally Posted by morpheuzrecords

well the inspiration that led to the RB 700 is quite clear

I was wondering if it's actually the same mic? They're in the same price range

/megl

[dlmorley]

I would guess they are identical

[SureShotStudio]

hi,

just for the record i have 2 of those RM700 mic's and i quite like them for guitar amps paired with a sm57. Seems to be a good match. haven't tried them as overheads yet should try that out next time i record drums.

greetings,

Thomas

[chandlersonic]

I'm gonna be working on a metal mix right now where the guitars were tracked with an rb500, I'll se if I can get clearance to post a sample.
It sounds ok, it's a bit muddy though compared to an r121... but I think it's definitely useable.
It sounds nice on clean guitars but lacks the definition I think for heavily distorted ones.
I haven't done any processing so you guys'll get it as raw as it gets .

[megl]

Originally Posted by chandlersonic

I'm gonna be working on a metal mix right now where the guitars were tracked with an rb500, I'll se if I can get clearance to post a sample.
It sounds ok, it's a bit muddy though compared to an r121... but I think it's definitely useable.
It sounds nice on clean guitars but lacks the definition I think for heavily distorted ones.
I haven't done any processing so you guys'll get it as raw as it gets .

Cool - I hope you get the clearance ;-)

/megl

[seb37000]

Has any one tried these on close tom mics ?

[Torwald]

Originally Posted by chandlersonic

I'm gonna be working on a metal mix right now where the guitars were tracked with an rb500, I'll se if I can get clearance to post a sample.
It sounds ok, it's a bit muddy though compared to an r121... but I think it's definitely useable.
It sounds nice on clean guitars but lacks the definition I think for heavily distorted ones.
I haven't done any processing so you guys'll get it as raw as it gets .

Any news yet? I'm very curious... I thought the RB500 sounded excellent on drum room mic, and OK but not too good (too boomy and muddy on the low end) on the guitar samples I heard, but yours may show a different side of the mics!

[Shaman]

Well "too boomy" can be helped with HP filter if needed.
If not - all the boom you need is there.
If too boomy - just hi pass.

If "unfocussed" - use a condenser mic instead.

A Massive Passive or a gml 8200 helps too....

Come on guys this is a 100 Euro adventure....don´t just sit there and wait for others living the good live...

[Ruphus]

Originally Posted by Shaman

- Had all those clear preamps like Avalon, Manley Slam! etc. - what I need badly now is COLOUR

Hi Shahman,

try the Slam! with less input gain ( under ~ 11:30 ) and you will get as much color as you want.


I like threads that reveal options about nice gear for little cash.

And while at it, I would like to recommend KEL mics too. Had a pair of HM-1 ( 160 $ a piece for peeps outside USA / Canada ) coming in days ago and really dig them.

These little things are in the smooth department, yet with quite some definition. Obviously great for rock or background instruments ( and maybe vocals ).

They have some impressive demo material recorded with just these mics on their website ( http://www.kelaudio.com/soundclips.html ) and from what I heard in my trial the demos could be straight.

( Wish I had these mics when I started out and invested the spared cash into other parts of the chain.)

Lovely examples for to ridicule the thoughtless phrase of "You get what you pay for".

Ruphus

[Shaman]

Originally Posted by Ruphus

Hi Shahman,

try the Slam! with less input gain ( under ~ 11:30 ) and you will get as much color as you want.

Hi Ruphus,

I traded the SLAM! a year ago for wunder pafour + a pair of UA 1176 and didn´t cry one single tear.

[Shaman]

Originally Posted by Ruphus

I like threads that reveal options about nice gear for little cash.

So do I - too easy to become a gear snob.

[Ruphus]

I have yet to find out whether the Slam! could come close in value to the money that I paid for it.

Really do love its colour ( great meat! ), however it eats some of the HF detail even still after having put in better NOS tubes which helped a little bit, - and it unfortunately seems to narrow the stereo field. In sight of my special problem with bad room / muddy sounding environment on principle, the entire benefit of this box shall hopefully become evident when I have moved to a place that allows good acoustics in the first place.

Also I hadn´t the case of recording drums ( OH ) with it yet ( where it´s supposed to shine ).

And a friend told me that its ( pretty dark ) elops would be wonderful for high pitched female voices.

Two weeks ago I returned from a long trip to Central America.
Havn´t decided yet, whether to move to there or eventually to south Spain, but whether the one or the other place, planned is to build a house with dedicated recording space.

Good room and specially cared for AC shall finally be the platform for appropriately evaluating my gear.

So far I am almost of the impression as if it was impossible to even come remotely close to pristine sound of major productions without heavily EQing, doubling, broadening, distorting and whatnot, and I´m curious whether a much better original signal could change anything about it.

Sorry for slight OT and all the best.

Ruphus

[Torwald]

Originally Posted by Shaman

Well "too boomy" can be helped with HP filter if needed.
If not - all the boom you need is there.
If too boomy - just hi pass.

True...

If "unfocussed" - use a condenser mic instead.

Also true...

A Massive Passive or a gml 8200 helps too....

Probably true aswell

Come on guys this is a 100 Euro adventure....don´t just sit there and wait for others living the good live...

True! I'm ordering an RB500 and an RM700 right about now

[toolskid]

Originally Posted by Torwald

True...

Also true...

Probably true aswell

True! I'm ordering an RB500 and an RM700 right about now

Not to rain too badly on anyones parade, maybe you guys could also think about the quality of the 'boom', focus and need for eq...

[Torwald]

Originally Posted by toolskid

Not to rain too badly on anyones parade, maybe you guys could also think about the quality of the 'boom', focus and need for eq...

But then... I think it's worth $120 to find out for myself. Boom and the need for EQ could be helped/solved with a different mic position, or whatever. I doubt the mic will be completely useless. Plus, a "warm low end" (a.k.a. boomy) and transient smoothing (a.k.a. transient moshing) could do very well on room mic for a drum kit, as we have already heard. With that said, I think I will find a use for it.

Actually, my vision is that the RB500 could blend in pretty nicely with a 421 or 57, or maybe both, on a guitar cab...

[toolskid]

Originally Posted by Torwald

But then... I think it's worth $120 to find out for myself. Boom and the need for EQ could be helped/solved with a different mic position, or whatever. I doubt the mic will be completely useless. Plus, a "warm low end" (a.k.a. boomy) and transient smoothing (a.k.a. transient moshing) could do very well on room mic for a drum kit, as we have already heard. With that said, I think I will find a use for it.

Actually, my vision is that the RB500 could blend in pretty nicely with a 421 or 57, or maybe both, on a guitar cab...

my point was that you should consider the KIND of boom you get and the KIND of transient mashing!

Never mind!

I have two RB500 and they are useful as FX mics (and cheap as hell). I also have two R122s and they see pretty much all the critical usage... Just don't confuse the RB500 with a decent ribbon!

And no.. I don't just make delicate acoustic music!!!

[Torwald]

Originally Posted by toolskid

my point was that you should consider the KIND of boom you get and the KIND of transient mashing!

Never mind!

I have two RB500 and they are useful as FX mics (and cheap as hell). I also have two R122s and they see pretty much all the critical usage... Just don't confuse them with a decent ribbon!

And no.. I don't just make delicate acoustic music!!!

I'm sorry if I sounded rude in some way, that really wasn't my intention. I completely agree with you with the mashing and mud and boom and everything, and if I had the budget for a pair of 122s right now, I wouldn't hesitate. I don't imagine that I'm buying a pair of decent ribbons, but just as you say.. For FX (and some field work in the studio!) they should be just sufficient.

Anyhow, we'll see how they turn out. If not so good, then I could always trick some kid into buying them from me

[_barnee]

Hey,

I've just found this topic.
I have the T-bone RB500 since december 2005. (133€ then)
I've bought a pair to use them mainly on drums as overheads. They sounds really great.
Also, I tried them on acoustic guitars... and I got this little hiss...
Low output mic.
It needs a great preamp. I use a SPL Goldmike to plug both RB500.
Better than using the Motu Travelers one but it could be even better...with another preamp...and with another mics too!!!

I love this sound. I may have a look at the stereo mic from cascade (ribbon).
Maybe this might be even better than the RB500.

[Matti]

The Cascade mics come from the same factory as others, just find the
cheapest!
http://wy.hotsales.net/com/shuaiyin/main.php
This site is slowish but has all the info you would want to know (exept exact tech.)
Matti

[David-Morpheus]

My 2 RB-500 and 2 RM-700 arrived today
next weekend I'm staring a new job with a hardcore/nu-metal band so I'll try them out for sure

looking forward to hear them

[Lefrançais]

Originally Posted by MATTI

The Cascade mics come from the same factory as others, just find the
cheapest!
http://wy.hotsales.net/com/shuaiyin/main.php
This site is slowish but has all the info you would want to know (exept exact tech.)
Matti

I thought T-Bone came from Se Electronics factory...?

[Matti]

Some T-bone ldc´s come from Feilo who where participating in making
early SE mics ( now SE have their own factory ) , as I understand.

Matti

[damien]

Hello,

Thomann shop offers a new cheap ribbon microphone.
It's the RB100. under 100$ , 79€.

It is really nice looking. hope it sounds good!



http://www.thomann.de/fr/the_tbone_rb100.htm

Really looking forward to listening to this new one.

[Alexi]

this looks really interesting......

[emkay]

Originally Posted by damien

Hello,

Thomann shop offers a new cheap ribbon microphone.
It's the RB100. under 100$ , 79€.

It is really nice looking. hope it sounds good!



http://www.thomann.de/fr/the_tbone_rb100.htm

Really looking forward to listening to this new one.

That looks alot like the Peluso R14 ribbon!

[Alexi]

Originally Posted by damien

Hello,

Thomann shop offers a new cheap ribbon microphone.
It's the RB100. under 100$ , 79€.

It is really nice looking. hope it sounds good!



http://www.thomann.de/fr/the_tbone_rb100.htm

Really looking forward to listening to this new one.

i am tempted to buy a pair of these next week....i still have to shell out some cash

[Blacky]

Hi Guys!
I bought a GoldenAge R1 Ribbon avtive mic and changed the transformer to a Lundahl LL1927A. Tested yesterday on heavy and acoustic guitars through an A-Designs MP2 pre. Woooowww!
Mixed the heavy guitar with the sm57 and the acoustic guitar with a little room (AT4050) through the Voxbox. That works very well!
The R1 is an active Ribbon for €200.- (for 3month €300.-)

http://www.goldenageacoustics.com/go...t/uk/index.htm

Next week we will test it on vocals!
And later on OH and room.

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