Not so sure my Behringer Truths are cutting it, what other Monitors to get?

[rids]

Maybe that was a little unnecessarily long for a title, but anyways I was wondering what other monitors are better than the Truths? I can't be dishing out a lot of money, but I'm wondering if I should step up to some different monitors.

Anyone like the Truths around here?

[MAJIK]

I like my aleisis M1 active Mk's. pretty easy on the pocket book too.

[Benmrx]

you know. I've been using the Behringer Truths for a little over 3 years now, and I've done some nice mixes with 'em.

I know they're not the best.....but you know...I'm Really used to them.

But....I too have been lusting for some new monitors lately. I plan on keeping the Behringers, but I've been looking at something a bit smaller than an 8" woofer to have around.

Although I'm in no place to make any purchases tomorrow, I've been looking at:

KRK V6
Yamaha HS50M
ADAM A7's (if the $$$ is there)

Do you want to replace the Truths, or get something "in addition to"?

FWIW, I hate my Alesis monitors. Although they're nice to have in the tracking room so I can listen to music while setting up

[JustAboutReal]

I've had a good experience with Fostex PM-1s. They're powered and they're only about $300.

Plus, last time I checked... Musicians friend was giving away free speaker stands with them too

OK I just took a holiday to google, and it turns out that PM1's a discontinued in lieu of the PM-1 mkII

they're $399 /pair now

[Glenn Kuras]

So what do you not like about them? What do you think you are missing with them? I would ask yourself that before just throwing down money for something that may not get you any better mixes.

Glenn

[gsilbers]

M-audio Bx8

[tuffghost]

I like my Truths at home. I have passive ones, but I've heard the active ones too. I think I prefer my passives...

My big problem with mine is the lack of a clear low end.

Sometime down the line, I plan on getting a sub to make up for it... not sure if i'll be settled then or not.

[mrmicguy]

Nobody has suggested Tannoy Reveal series. I have a pair of Reveals and love them. Very good value for $$!

[Glenn Kuras]

Originally Posted by tuffghost

I like my Truths at home. I have passive ones, but I've heard the active ones too. I think I prefer my passives...

My big problem with mine is the lack of a clear low end.

Sometime down the line, I plan on getting a sub to make up for it... not sure if i'll be settled then or not.

That might to do more with your room set up and acoustics then the monitors. You may want to check that out. What is your room size, where are are seated and what kind of a room acoustics do you have?

Glenn

[The Marrvel]

Keep the Truths until you have at least $1000 to spend.

[chief lutt]

Originally Posted by myfipie

That might to do more with your room set up and acoustics then the monitors. You may want to check that out. What is your room size, where are are seated and what kind of a room acoustics do you have?

Glenn

couldn't agree more. find out how the monitors are behaving. download a tone generator from http://marchandelec.com/fg.html, get a radioshack spl meter $40-60 and start plotting. treat your room then consider buying/making 2 subs. if u don't feel like plotting then go straight to treating. you will benefit regardless. the truths have an 8' woofer that should go low. if 50hz is not low enough for you, get something bigger. i'm surprised you are experiencing this problem as usually bigger woofers tend to do well in low freqs and not so well in the mids. that's why three way systems use a smaller woofer for the mids and sometimes even a big mid tweeter.

here's an article that might help you decide. you can skip to the bottom then read the rest if you like. http://emusician.com/speakers/emusic_good_references/

hope this helps

[cjogo]

Event SP 8 >> under $700 used

[UPRYZ]

Whoever said wait until you have $1k is right on. The Behringer monitors are as good as anything out there in the budget category. In a well treated room they have a pretty reasonable frequency response and are capable of putting out excellent mixes. The next tier in my opinion would be Dynaudio BX5's, Event ASP8's, Adam A7, etc..

Dan Fox

[aussie_techie]

Originally Posted by The Marrvel

Keep the Truths until you have at least $1000 to spend.

the beh arnt the best, you wont hear the minor details of a mix but they seem to translate fairly well. buying anything else low end will just be a step sideways and you will have to get used to new monitors.

if you havnt already treat your room, then save up for higher end monitors.

just my $0.02 anyway

[snappydad]

The Tascam VL-X5 is a great value in the $300ish/pair range.

[busman]

I have been using the KRK V6 series 2 monitors for about a year now and man these have made all the difference in my mixes. They help make all my mixes translate well onto every system I have.
I listened to every set of monitors up to $1000 a pair and these were by far the best.

Must use mo pads or similar to make them sound like they are supposed to otherwise you will lose a lot of your frequency response.

[Phrygian]

Originally Posted by aussie_techie

the beh arnt the best, you wont hear the minor details of a mix but they seem to translate fairly well. buying anything else low end will just be a step sideways and you will have to get used to new monitors.

if you havnt already treat your room, then save up for higher end monitors.

just my $0.02 anyway

Perfect advice right there.

I mix on Truth 2031a's and have no prob. I have a stereo EQ set up so I can color them when needed. Works out great and I'm so used to mixing on them.

[LewisWu]

I've seen the passive truths at legit studios.. granted they were in small rooms with heavy treatment... they sounded fine considering the dimensions of the room... I agree with The Marrvel.. untill I can afford serious monitors, I am going to stick to my sp-5b's and keep checking my mixes via different playback systems and a/b comparisons...

[Acoustic Cloud]

Originally Posted by LewisWu

I am going to stick to my sp-5b's and keep checking my mixes via different playback systems and a/b comparisons...

I agree Lewis, keep those sp5b's. I had them and wish i had them back. They smoke the BX-5....those are horrible! I have Alesis MK2, and still liked the sp5 much better. M-Audio should have never stopped making those.

Phooey on them.

[tuffghost]

Originally Posted by myfipie

That might to do more with your room set up and acoustics then the monitors. You may want to check that out. What is your room size, where are are seated and what kind of a room acoustics do you have?

it's about a 15 x 15 square with carpet, the back wall/ceiling is slanted.
i try to keep them pretty close, but i do have to move back to get better low end.

Originally Posted by chief lutt

the truths have an 8' woofer that should go low. if 50hz is not low enough for you, get something bigger.

50hz is not really low enough for me.
However, I think they start to roll off somewhere closer to 90 or 100hz, which just a problem.

The mid range, i don't mind.

but, i haven't mixed on em in a few months...

[Emi]

I had the behringer truth too and i don´t think they roll off at 90...they go pretty low....and u have a square room, now that´s a problem....so look for your acustics cuz it´s really important. just an opinion

now i have the new genelec ones and i love them, my mixes are very balanced and amazingly i get more balanced mixes on my genelecs then the Adam S2.5A with Adam Sub (i don´t remember the exact reference) I have in the studio together with a pair of Dynaudio BM6.

[Street_Soldier]

Why not look into the Event TR-8's they have a low frequency range of 35

[chief lutt]

somebody mentioned something about moving sideways and not really stepping up if you buy something in the same price range. before you even consider buying...take measurements. find out your valleys and peaks. did you read the article? who are you mixing for? if you're dying to spend some money go right ahead! i get that way too sometimes!!! but if you have room problems (and it looks like you do...we all do) you will not be happy with whatever you get!

good luck

[uncle duncan]

Tascam VL-X5. Great bass. Great high end. Great reviews. Smoked everything else at the local music store in that catagory - small powered monitors.
I don't know how much the room comes into play in nearfield monitoring, especially at lower volumes. I think that's the point of nearfield monitoring - to take the room out of the equation.
I think it's important to have more than one set of monitors. Maybe one set has more midrange, another has more bass. Get your mix souding good on all of them and you should be okay.

[TheSoundFella]

I owned the B's for about 2 years & got quite used to them. I Agree, I could make decent mixes but never could hear the smaller details within.

About 6 weeks ago I wanted to switch so I wouldn't have the B's in my room anymore. I found the Alesis 620's to be a very easy transition & much easier to hear the smaller details. Definitely a better step forward. I guess they have 6" or 6.5" woofs & run about $500 powered.

Not too much to break the bank, a smooth switch in the upward direction (& you won't have to look @ "their" name anymore!

[Gavin]

I have the Truthies and have also been looking to upgrade, mostly to the Blue Sky Media Desk or the KRK Rokit 8s. The main reason is that the Truths don't seem to be shielded well and I can hear FM radio in them. Has anyone else had this problem? Will better monitors solve it or do I need to find some other solution?

[tuffghost]

i think you guys are getting a little confused.... i'm not the one planning on getting new monitors. I like my truths for what they're worth. this is just my home setup.

my room has some issues sure, but i usually head to the studio to final-check things.

[chief lutt]

hey tuffghost.
i hope rids is reading this. never heard or i guess read from him again! how are your mixes translating? iyou know anything about apex 210, at 4051 and violet goldfinger?

[rids]

Wow, didn't think I'd get so many posts so soon.

I have the Truth B2031A Active monitors and my room is fairly small. It feels like others have said, some of the details are missing. I am on a budget setup and my AD/DA convertor is a Motu 828, so that could very well be part of the problem.

I might just go with one of these suggestions here to compare for myself. Not sure yet though. I like Uncle Duncan's idea of trying out other monitors and if I can get a mix to sound good on multiple monitors then everything should be good.

[chief lutt]

there he is!

go right ahead and get a second pair. it helps to have a second set of reference. but if you haven't already treated your room you might want to consider it as well.
while we're on the subject of monitors....
i'm about to build speaker cabinets for fostex 127es. anyone tried using full range speakers for monitors?