Who's got the Konnekt 24D?

[m_gant]

http://www.tcelectronic.com/Konnekt24D

Appears to be released judging by Sweetwater. Read the manual last night, looks like the ticket. Anyone have hands on this yet?

How's the pres?
Converters?
Drivers?
Opinions on Fabrik R & C?

[Acoustic Cloud]

W were looking at this a few months ago, but last I checked, they still hadnt released detailed specs yet.

[Mike Martin]

The Konnekt series just started shipping from Denmark this week. That means it should be in your local stores in the next couple of weeks.

[m_gant]

^bump^

[Mike Martin]

Inventory is still coming into the US, so it still not any stores yet. I honestly expect 10-14 days or so until you see them in stores.

Mike Martin
TC|US

[Mike Martin]

We're are distributing units to magazines and reviewers as quickly as possible.

-Mike Martin
TC|US

[m_gant]

We're are distributing units to magazines and reviewers as quickly as possible.

-Mike Martin
TC|US

Could you give some insight on how the DSP works? Is it only for tracking and monitoring, or can you run instances of it like using a powercore?

[Mike Martin]

The DSP can be used while tracking, monitoring and mixdown. For example you could track with Fabrik C (providing a little compression for example) and monitor with reverb from Fabrik R, but not record the reverb...unless you want to. In addition both the compressed and original unprocessed signal are available to your DAW so you can track both at once.

During Mixdown, only one instance of each Fabrik C and Fabrik R is available. Think of them as two external effects units. In Cubase SX 3 or Nuendo for example you'd actually set them up using their "external effects" feature. Then you can use them as plug ins or inserts.

-Mike Martin
TC|US

[Mike Martin]

24 in the product name comes from the number of simultaneous inputs and outputs. So its 12 in, 12 out at once. 4 analog + 8 ADAT channels =12. If you need the SPDIF coax, the ADAT can be set to 6 channels.

Up to four Konnekt's can be used at once to expand the system.

[Mike Martin]

Yes that is the correct number of inputs and outputs, but 12 each way to and from the computer= 24.

M-Audio for example - FW1814 is actually 16 in/12 out simultaneously.

[Mike Martin]

r0ck1r0ck2,
I'm just here trying to be straight with you. The name of the product Konnekt 24D means 24 channels + DSP. Likewise the Konnekt 8, is only 4 in, 4 out.

So just to clarify -
4 analog inputs + 8 digital channels to and from the computer: the user makes a choice between ADAT OR SPDIF OR a combination between the two. Options are:
1) 8 ADAT
2) 6 ADAT AND 2 COAXIAL SPDIF
2) 2 OPTICAL SPDIF AND 2 COAXIAL SPDIF

If you are using 8 ADAT channels, the SPDIF IN/out can be assigned in the Konnekt Control Panel to something else (direct monitoring signal, seperate send/return signal...etc) with both the ADAT port AND the SPDIF working at the same time = 14 ins and outs.

So yes, it has 14 ins and outs but only 12 simultaneous to and from the computer.

Hope this helps,

Mike Martin
TC|US

[Chucho]

if cock1cock2 says any more stupid things you would be entitled to tell him to pee off.
I suppose thats why I'm not in sales.

[m_gant]

Mike,
I personally appreciate the info you've provided.

r0ck1r0ck2,
Thanks for turning this thread into a piece of crap. I was hoping for some intelligent feedback on a product I and others may be interested in.

Hopefully this thread will die and resurface when some folks with unbiased, hands on experience can provide more insight.

[r0ck1r0ck2]

i'm out..

and i do thank you mike..

that does help a lot..

[Mike Martin]

No problem guys, thank you!

If anyone else has questions let me know, I'd be happy to help.

Take care,
Mike Martin
TC|US

[Jimbo]

Jeez, what the !@#$ happened here.

It's like a deletion A-bomb went off.

Regardless, this product looks like one of the few to give some serious competition to the Metric Halo MIO.

I'll be interested to read people's thoughts on this one.

- Jim

[Acoustic Cloud]

me too!!

[siegfried]

How good is Fabrik R? Is it better than, say, Sonic Flavours R66 or Wizooverb??? Thanks!

[m_gant]

It appears to be showing up:
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/sh...fpart=1#353736

[perandre]

Has anyone tried the Konnekt with a Macbook? On the TC Support-site, they say that on "certain mac laptops" you can't hoplug your device... That's sad. So...Anyone tried??

[stolenpeach]

I just got my Konnekt 24D after waiting several months. The news about the drivers concerned me, but not enough that I wouldn't buy it. Adding the "assimilator" was a big plus factor.

I hooked it up. The sound was very good. I was able to get my mic into my new iMac in both Garageband and Logic. I liked the reverb: but will probably only use it as a "comfort" reverb for recording vocals.

The news about the drivers is correct. I was unable to get the midi to work. I wrote to TC Electronics. They replied that there were problems with the midi drivers in the software version 1.0.1. However they said the problem was solved with 1.0.2. The problem is, I can't find that new update on their website.

Secondly. The Assimilator wouldn't even install on my iMac. TC Electronics replied that the assimilator is not yet universal binary ready, and they will let me know when it is.

Overall: I think it's a great piece of grear. Perhaps with the new intel duo processors in iMacs there have been some issues. But they aren't the only company racing ahead to get those issues settled.

I'll let you know if I have success with the midi and assimilator. Meanwhile, I know I'm going to enjoy having quality converters and decent preamps. For more critical applications, I'll still use my Avalon thru the balanced line input.

[Mike Martin]

Stolenpeach,

The new drivers were just posted. Check this link:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/default....jrDcmntId=6310

In regards to Assimilator, it is now Mac/Intel compatible but not AU, just VST at this time this is still being addressed.

Enjoy your Konnekt, and if you have any questions feel free to contact me directly.

-Mike Martin
TC|US

[perandre]

I'm definately considering buying a unit. Looks like TC are pretty serious about this thing, and that the support is good.

I would be extra happy if it would work to hotplug on a Macbook...we'll see.
Keep posting!

[EgyptionRing]

I'm about a click away from getting this... Somebody stop me! No really, I'd like to hear some more thoughts, especially about the converters and how it is going on PC. I can't find anything about it on the net, I guess some of us have to be the lab rats.

[m_gant]

I would be extra happy if it would work to hotplug on a Macbook...we'll see

There is mention of this on the TC support page:


Plugging in Firewire or USB based units while a computer is on is referred to as hot plugging or hot swapping.

Konnekt does support hot plugging, however on certain Mac laptops hot plugging of the Konnekt is not possible. This may cause the screen to go black.

In the event that this happens:

1.
Please disconnect the Konnekt
2.
Let your laptop go into sleep mode (close the lid of the laptop)
3.
Open the laptop again

The screen should now be visible and you can shut down the computer in order to plug in the Konnekt.
When connecting the Konnekt your computer should always be turned off or in sleep mode.

[stolenpeach]

Within hours of making an inquiry regarding when the updated MIDI drivers would be posted, TC delivered as promised. I downloaded the update. Now everything works great. I am pleased with the Konnekt 24D. I had been using an M-Box on my PC, but with the new iMac, I needed something higher quality and compatible. What a difference the Konnekt is compared to the MBox.

I have no doubt that as soon at the Assimilator is updated for AU, TC will get that out, and I'll be fully up and running.

My opinion of the Konnekt? Buy it!

[perandre]

Originally Posted by m_gant

There is mention of this on the TC support page:

Yeah, I know. So I actually contacted the TC support to check if it would work to hotplug on a Macbook, or if that model was one of the problematic ones. They hadn't done any testing with the MB, but they tried the MB Pro, and it was fine.

I've had ISSUES with M-Audio Firewire 410 and hotplugging...when it first came out, they said "Feel free to hotplug!". Some months later, it was more like this: "Never hotplug this device; it will fry the fw-port on either your computer or the 410!"

The pain in reallife, is that you need to close the lid and pull the plug for some seconds. That's ok, but like many of us, I also have an external HD connected to my interface. And this thing has to be safely removed before I connect or remove the interface...which sometimes makes it necessary to close Logic and load the song again. That's ok too, even though the whole prosedyre takes a minute. The real pain is when you have to try several times before it works! Which has been the case with the fw 410 (on my system...), and you end up having to reboot. Ok, it's not a huge issue, but it's annoying when things doesn't work. I don't think this will be a problem with Konnekt, though, from what I'm hearing.

[Red2112]

Hi everyone,

New to this forum so be gentel LOL. Ok, I just got my Konnekt 24D two days ago, and very happy with it, except one thing that maybe you all can help.

After doing some test on the Konnekt 24D, which all whent more the fine for me and I do think its a great unit. I came across an issue with S/PDIF that I didnt expect.

As I said I was testing everything on the unit with enjoyment, but when I got to testing the coaxial s/pdif I/O´s I whent down... I took my M-One XL coaxial out and in to the Konnekt 24D via a 75 ohm RCA cable. At first, it seemed there was a lock, as the gray lock next to the s/pdif conexion on the settings panel of TCNear was flashing, but with a warning singe next to it. It keep that way for a few seconds and it turned red with "no ref", which I Imagen means no lock or no reference to source.

I dicided to do it the other way around and have a s/pdif out from the Konnekt 24D to the s/pdif in of the M-One XL, changed the input of the M-One XL to digital and got a good lock on the M-One XL and meter readings coming from the mic input of the Konnekt 24D. All this seems very strange to me.

I did the same s/pdif out to the Konnekt 24D in, with two other units, A Boss GS-10 and a Samsung CD/DVD player and still the same thing "no ref" on setup screen. No luck.

I got to T.C ´s support page and told them what was going on with my unit and its s/pdif I/O´s. T.C was very fast to respond in one day. The reply said I should have sync set to internal in the system screen of TCNear, which is how it was in the first place. Clock is at 44.1Kghz. Iam not a pro at this. Anybody now what can cause this, or any solution? MIke Martin please?

Update 21/10/06:
The S/PDIF Issue has been solved. It was a matter of understanding how all this works and making proper settings on the TCNear control panel. Iam a very happy man now! A big 10 for the Konnekt 24D!

This is a great unit, and specialy that I run it through a new Dell Inspirion 6400 laptop with a generic OHCI firewier controler where some laptops have big issues with there fw. Thats a 10 for T.C. Thanks for reading.

[perandre]

Getting mine this week. The days of m-audio firewire 410 are (hopefully) over...

[engelen62]

I bought it to replace my motu 828 mk1 and I also have a Rme fireface 800 in my studio and an Mbox2. I only tried it on one location recording hooked up to my Macbook pro and everything worked great. Hotplugging and all .. and I feel it sounds richer that the Fireface.. this is just a feeling no side by side testing yet.

My only slight complaint was that the headphone output was a bit weak.

Inge