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Mic which has same highs as a vintage U67 ??

Hi,
can you please share your exp with mics ?? I need help to identify a mic which has same highs and with a clear&detailed sound as a vintage Neumann U67 (or the nearest to)
Ive found all good U67 copies to be defintely brighter and more clear so Id like to nail that part of the original sound

Thanks a lot for any help
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joly 603 and a tweaked out mxl 9000
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67s aren't bright. Are you comparing the sound of a RECORD you liked where they used a 67...or comparing your actual experience with one?

I've ranted about this here before. You can't compare a record. A 67 can get super airy on record with a Pultec because of it's negative feedback--that takes excessive highs AWAY at the mic. There is no current mic in production that uses a negative feedback to drain highs.
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I know that 67s arent bright thats why Im specifically asking for a mic that can compare to it in that freq range, I need that warm but clear&detailed sound, some mics approach that sound but lacks the detail and the clarity... thats why I was asking: there are some many options out there its impossible to try everything and the real problem is that ALL U67 copies lacks specifically in that range
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Judge for yourself. I was pretty surprised.....

One the one male clip it could go either way. Interchangeable IMO. On the female clip I prefered the MJ mic significantly over the 67. Third clip - I think the kind of crooner one, the tube compressing on the 67 had a nice vintage vibe that I liked.

U67
http://www.oktavamod.com/media/Test_...male_Vocal.wav
012/K47H
[/B]http://www.oktavamod.com/media/Test_...male_Vocal.wav

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U67
http://www.oktavamod.com/media/Test_...67_Vocal_2.wav
012/K47H
http://www.oktavamod.com/media/Test_...dy_Vocal_2.wav

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U67
http://www.oktavamod.com/media/Test_...Vocal_Loud.wav
012/K47H
http://www.oktavamod.com/media/Test_...Vocal_Loud.wav


I know you guys like frequency graphs, so see below.

For what it's worth, IMO, the Joly 603 sounds NOTHING, NOTHING like a U67. Completely different worlds.....

The above K47H sounds fantastic on it's own, but as a U67 sound alike, honestly, it's closer than any other mic I've ever had in my possession. I know Michael did a lot of "post design" listening and was pretty surprised at how close it sounds to his U67. I don't think he was never intending to go there - he was just shooting for a new 6 micron capsule with a retro sound for his 012 modded mics, but sometimes, accidents happen.....

Not really surprising to me, as that's the sound I think he always hears in his head and is shooting for - whether or not he's trying to imitate a mic, or just design a good capsule/circuit.
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miktek cv4 vs u67

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In the first 2 sets, I clearly prefer the MJ's.

Also prefer the 67 on the last set.

Very cool...

Now Bill why'd you have to give me one MORE vocal mic to lust for.

Chris

P.S. Dig the CV4 too, super nice vocal mic.
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In the first 2 sets, I clearly prefer the MJ's.

Also prefer the 67 on the last set.

Very cool...

Now Bill why'd you have to give me one MORE vocal mic to lust for
.

Chris
Well, better or worse in one's personal opinion, there's no denying that it's firmly dead on in the U67 camp - tube or no.....

I would like to try mine with a tube pre, and I think it will pull even closer in, but I sold my LaChapelle's awhile ago.....

Chris - you dou do realize there's no tube and no transformer, right? And that you could buy about 15 of em for the price of a beat up 67.... And it gets that close. Freakish I tell ya.... The man's doing some kind of voodoo inside I think.


[PS - edit : Interesting, I just went in and looked closer at the graph and from 9k to 15k the 67 is just a tad bit brighter than the K47h, with the K47H opening up ABOVE 15k with some nice upper air. This confirmed what I was feeling about the mic. I want to use these on Orchestra where 67's are generally the go to mic!!! I think they would be fantastic.
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Yep MJ, to say the least, is quite the talent as a pro modder.

Not in his league, by many a mile, but was just having fun tonight EQing a 57
(no not the Neumann) to within around 90% of "classic ribbon" tone ala RCA 44. But to paraphrase Yogi Berra, was missing the magic of the other half.

Chris
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