Echo Audiofire 4 latency issues

[redddog]

Yeah. The biggest hit you put on the Audiofire stuff is their bad latency performance. They use a very large safety buffer which causes rountrip latency to be maddenly high. Further, they won't even admit that they use a high safety buffer. Or they don't understand the question - which would be worse.

I use and love an Audiofire 12 and keep hoping against hope that a software update will fix this. I really don't think it'll happen because they think that the latency performance is just fine.

It's a shame. The Audiofire 12 is absolutely exactly what I need in a converter - 12 channels, really great sound and no B.S. If the latency performance was even marginally better, I would think that they would have an even bigger fan base than they already have. And from what I can tell, it's really just a matter of better software coding(although I really don't know that for sure).

It's a shame.

[tINY]

Well, for actually recording, latency isn't an issue....

Can you use the Cue Mixer to send a feed to a hardware unit (like a cheap amp) instead of monitoring post-emulation? Usually, amp simulations are a post-tracking operation in multi-track recordings.



-tINY

[bigb6611]

tINY,

Do you mean direct monitoring thru the Echo software console, going to an external mixer? This could be an option if I had some kind of external device (say a Pod)... but for me, the goal is actually tracking while echoing thru the software (Reaper->Amplitube), in a live fashion.

Thanks for the reply!

ben

[aldaraia]

Definitely waiting for a resolution to this. Been considering getting an Audiofire 12 for a while but if latency is going to be a big issue then it wouldn't be worth it to me.

[tINY]

Originally Posted by aldaraia

Definitely waiting for a resolution to this. Been considering getting an Audiofire 12 for a while but if latency is going to be a big issue then it wouldn't be worth it to me.

With the money you save over a similar unit with less latency, you could probably buy a POD and feed it from the zero-latency mixer built into the unit....



-tINY

[aldaraia]

Originally Posted by tINY

With the money you save over a similar unit with less latency, you could probably buy a POD and feed it from the zero-latency mixer built into the unit....



-tINY

That's a fair point, but it just seems like it's treating the symptom and not the disease. Tracking with live amps or processing before recording into the Audiofire would make it so that I wouldn't need low roundtrip latency, but there are still going to be situations where tones available on a POD don't live up to expectation or outboard processing is unavailable and I'll be unable to rely on low enough latency on the interface.

EDIT: Not to mention mixing with outboard gear.

[tINY]

Mixing isn't an issue. The round-trip is compensated for in most DAWs.

If you need a guitar port on your computer, a single-input USB interface (optimized for guitar) is better anyway.
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-tINY

[Old Goat]

I'm using an Echo A4 with Sonar 8.5 and I've had no problems tracking at all.

[tINY]

Originally Posted by Old Goat

I'm using an Echo A4 with Sonar 8.5 and I've had no problems tracking at all.

But you are probably not demanding a fully modeled and affected monitor of the guitar in real time....



-tINY

[redddog]

Actually, it looks like they've updated the drivers and improved latency performance is something they've addressed. I'll give a look.

[Old Goat]

Originally Posted by tINY

But you are probably not demanding a fully modeled and affected monitor of the guitar in real time....



-tINY

You are correct, sir, it's just an old goat and an old guitar--a wax cylinder should be able to keep up. But, I have done projects with multiple tracks and overdubs with no problems that I could hear.

*Correct again that there is no processing the input.*