Korg MS2000R Dilemma

[draven5]

Could be many reasons.

The sound is a bit thin for some.

4 notes of polyphony

It's the rack version

[donsolo]

They're not prone to failure or anything. I had one for quite a long time. I bought it from a friend for what the pawn shop was offering with the offer that he could buy it back at another time for the same amount.

They're not the best sounding VA synth out there but they are a lot of fun to play with. The manual is somewhat sketchy though.

Rack synths don't hold value the way keyboards do. Also, this unit is BIG for a rack, if I remember correctly, it's like 3U.

This is why I buy rack synths. I don't have the space for anymore keyboards (I currently have 5 in my small studio) but rackmount units, I make room for. You spend less, they take less space but ultimately, they are hard to use live because it's a lot of extra cables and things to carry around.

[TheBrightSide]

I really like my 2000 keyboard. It can do some pretty cool stuff.
If you've heard demo's of it and like what you hear, just get it.
It is an absolute bargain these day's, which is a bonus for someone who wants one.
I've had no problems with mine.

[jdsowa]

The reason why there's a lot of them on the used market is because Korg sells a lot of synthesizers.

[ctoth666]

Originally Posted by jdsowa

The reason why there's a lot of them on the used market is because Korg sells a lot of synthesizers.

Well I did just buy one, and I'm thinking that Korg does make a lot of synthesizers. I was just in the market to buy my first synth and incidentally was initially looking at the MS2000 before I did some more recon, and I don't think that I found more offers for any single item more than the MS2000.

[TheBrightSide]

How do you like it so far?

[draven5]

Maybe he likes it so much he can't come back to this thread.

[ctoth666]

Originally Posted by draven5

Maybe he likes it so much he can't come back to this thread.

I hope that I become so deeply engrossed in it that I do get off my computer for a bit, but it's being shipped to as we speak. Should come next week. Someone had one local on craigslist but they were too stubborn about the price.

[FilmNMusicman]

My personal feeling is that REAL ANALOGUE is having a sort of resurgence...(I mean it has for a while now)

My only issue with the MS2000 is the sound...I LIKE it, but it sort of has this JUNO 106 problem where it really has it's own "SOUND", I wouldn't want it as my ONLY synth.

I prefer the interface to the ALESIS ION (Bought and SOLD), I think it's great also because all the nobs respond to MIDI. I'd say get it, I see 2000R's for about $250-$350

[louparte]

Originally Posted by ctoth666

After reviewing some modeling synthesizers within my budget, the Korg MS2000R seems to be a good deal and is rich in features. I'm seriously considering buying one, and no I'm not asking "what should I buy" because I can make those decisions for myself. I have a different question regarding the MS2000R, which is that a lot of them are showing up on the used market. As a prospective buyer, that's sort of alarming or at least bothersome and I'm not sure exactly what to make of it. Is it more reflective of the quality of the synth itself or the economy? or something else?

One thing to consider is that Korg puts the MS20 in an iPad app for $32. I own it and it's my favorite iPad synth. Great sine wave. I can control it with my external MIDI gear.

That may be affecting the market for the actual hardware.

[draven5]

Originally Posted by louparte

One thing to consider is that Korg puts the MS20 in an iPad app for $32. I own it and it's my favorite iPad synth. Great sine wave. I can control it with my external MIDI gear.

That may be affecting the market for the actual hardware.

I bought the iMS20, then eventually the controller. Then the only thing that software made me do is buy a real MS20 which I did.

Now I want the sequencer for it.

As for the iMS20 it is my favorite iPad synth app too. Well made.

[ctoth666]

Originally Posted by draven5

I bought the iMS20, then eventually the controller. Then the only thing that software made me do is buy a real MS20 which I did.

Now I want the sequencer for it.

As for the iMS20 it is my favorite iPad synth app too. Well made.

I'm getting an iPad mini. It's already settled. BTW was that video recorded from the iPad? I found out how to stream audio wirelessly from the iOS devices to my MPB so I can play and record through my interface, which is something I was concerned about...

[spons]

I have an Ms2000r which I am considering selling. It is great having all the controllers on the top but all the sounds have a slightly buzzy quality to them a bit thin compared to my Miniak which is ground shaking.

[NebulaZero]

I bought one at a pawnshop for $50 because it was broken, tried to do a factory reset but it just gave me an error code, well it turned out to be a bad $20 motorola dsp chip, so i replaced it and it worked fine but yeah i eventually got bored of the sound and sold it, i think it was a good beginner synth.

Nebs

[Stevil]

i like to use mine as an fx processor. for a while i was running my Rhodes thru the aux in & having a blast with the feedback - delay - filter.

[Ryan Earnhardt]

I owned one for several years. It was a great tool but I slowly grew into soft syths and that kind of workflow.

My only complaint was that started playing 7 cents flat and needed to be manually tuned up each time you played it. I ended up selling it to a friend who didn't mind this extra step.

Someone said that they use it for effects, and it's nice to have for the vocoder and it's effects if you need them. I can see where a rack version would be nice.

[ctoth666]

Dunno what my dilemma was. I'm very fond of it so far, despite that I could care less about the sound, which some of my softsynths surpass. I like the knobs, and I like the mod sequencer a lot. Build quality is a bit deceiving, but it's solid enough. I have a few problems with the operation so far, but I'll wait to make a final judgement. I vastly prefer interacting with this big hunk of metal to my clicker and keyboard, however.

[draven5]

This thread caused me to pull out my MS2000 and play around with it. Yeah it's not going anywhere. Loving it!

[ctoth666]

Originally Posted by draven5

This thread caused me to pull out my MS2000 and play around with it. Yeah it's not going anywhere. Loving it!

I love it too, but it might be going somewhere for me. Not entirely sure yet. I have a feeling that I like it so much because it's my first synth and have nothing to compare it to. One of my big beefs so far is value-jumping. Is there any solution to this as far as anyone knows? I feel like it's a limitation of the synth because of dually assigned knobs. I'm also realizing that I don't like midi all that much in general.

Anyway, playing around with this has given me a vision for an analog modeling synthesizer, so here it goes:

-A 1080P LCD screen with an iPod-style jog wheel for browsing the menu. Or maybe even a touchscreen. Idk.
-The LCD is dedicated to utilities, global functions, mod matrix, envelopes, and displaying values only. Everything else has a dedicated control.
-Endless-encoders for every parameter. And one function per knob. Actually instead of knobs, C-Shaped iPod-style wheels for every parameter.
-Soft-buttons only.
-No midi. OSC protocol only.
-No keyboard. Instead, a multifunction array of iPod-style wheels that can either play notes, recall parameter values, or be used as a mod sequencer.
-And of course, it has to sound amazing.