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Old 12th July 2006   #1
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Accurate reference monitors for £500 (pair)?

I need a set of decent monitors that will give me an accurate reference for under £500 (pair) if possible. If you can think of any that are close to this but have a significant increase in accuracy compared to the best in the range then I may be persuaded to purchase them.
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Posted this in low end but I didn't get an answer so wondered if anyone could help here even though it's not high end.
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I think I am turning into the blue sky **** but here goes.....


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Audes 115 are used to change genelec monitor with an economic 600 euro amplifier.

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Genelec 8040A
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Genelec 8040A

There is no way I can disagree more with any statement I read or hear today.
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Look at this photo:

http://soundberry.com/0_000212.html

The new arrived box,strongly better than they had(genelec) is the 105 audes(550 euro p.pair).

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There is no way I can disagree more with any statement I read or hear today.
That's true, the 8040's are going to be almost twice your budget. However, you could try the Genelec 8030's. You might be able to get them for a hair over £500, (actually, closer to £600). You could also try the 8020's, or a pair of Dynaudio Acoustics BM-5A's. Both of those monitors are great and are under £500.
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Genelec 8030 - dynaudio bm5a - adam a7

The genelecs sound great and are easy to mix.
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At less hear the Tannoy Precision 6(900 euro and less in UK)with an external amplifier like consonance hybrid(700 euro).You get in any case the same results or better with the audes 105 at 550 euro and far better than genelec.
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At less hear the Tannoy Precision 6(900 euro and less in UK)with an external amplifier like consonance hybrid(700 euro).You get in any case the same results or better with the audes 105 at 550 euro and far better than genelec.
In my opinion genelecs (8000 series) are better than Tannoy Precision. Although the price maybe higher than your budget. It's just my opinion but I've never liked tannoys.
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That's true, the 8040's are going to be almost twice your budget. However, you could try the Genelec 8030's. You might be able to get them for a hair over £500, (actually, closer to £600). You could also try the 8020's, or a pair of Dynaudio Acoustics BM-5A's. Both of those monitors are great and are under £500.
Genelecs- especially the new ones and I have spent a lot of time with both are far from acurate- they are very flattering. Not worth the money- you can do worse but you can do better for the money.
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Blue Sky seconded - I can't see how you'll do a lot better for that kind of money, which should cover a Mediadesk 2.1 rig, but check pricing - active too.

I've now heard and reviewed everything in their range including the new Big Blue, and think they are outstanding bang-per-buck.
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Genelecs- especially the new ones and I have spent a lot of time with both are far from acurate- they are very flattering. Not worth the money- you can do worse but you can do better for the money.
I don't think that I am the only one to disagree with that statement. In fact, I don't find them to be any more flattering then something like a dynaudio or a JBL, they're just different. I find that they are a very clinical sounding speaker, but I wouldn't call them flattering. They are actually less flattering then the older series were and there are lots of other people on this forum that agree with me.
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I also don't like the Dynaudio!
I know plenty who agree with my opinion too- it really shows how subjective monitoring is.
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Depend of what it's your reference level.

My ears are targetted at true hi-end that I got with audes blues and is difficolt to get with 10000 euro Dynaudio,also if the price is triple.

In these sense,then Genelec have mediocre sound, I mean poor for the cost.


Also the 500 euro audes are far better.The world is changing if go to hear some others products coming in our world finally.

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I also don't like the Dynaudio!
I know plenty who agree with my opinion too- it really shows how subjective monitoring is.
Well, that explains it. It's very true that monitoring is a subjective thing. On that note, what would be your pick for monitors in that price range?
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Well, that explains it. It's very true that monitoring is a subjective thing. On that note, what would be your pick for monitors in that price range?
Its a really tough range- although to be fair I don't think either the Dynaudio or Genelecs actually drop in to it. I'm hopeful for the ADAMs.
I find it easier to be negative on the currently available crop of monitors. I should probably shut up! Give me NS 10s or AR18s anyday, or ADAM S3a, but thats a big old jump!
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truth audio ta-1p, used. listen to the beatles mix i just did, everything i mix on these boxes sounds analog to the core, translates uncannily, and needs very little mastering. and yes, i mix analog, but many monitors encourage choices that funk the top end, the truths encourage the opposite.


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Where can I hear truths in the UK though? We need something in this range for sure.
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The only suggestion I have is find yourself more money.
I haven't heard anything under £1000 that is accurate to mix on.
At £1k I'd go for Dynaudio BM6a's... and I did.
Be aware they do not have a lot in the low end but the midrange is the best in class.
It's a good idea to pair them with a decent sub.

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The only suggestion I have is find yourself more money.
I haven't heard anything under £1000 that is accurate to mix on.
At £1k I'd go for Dynaudio BM6a's... and I did.
Be aware they do not have a lot in the low end but the midrange is the best in class.
It's a good idea to pair them with a decent sub.

JR
Yep- thats the point I'm making... at £1000-£1500 there are 2 or 3 candidates.
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Don't get an amplified loudspeakers. The first limit they have is that the quality is not at the level of an Hybrid integrated amplifier stereo costing 700 euro.
If you complement this one with a bargain like audes 105 at 550 euro you got a result that no any amplified loudspeakers is today able to get in quality first.
So you get true hi-end also if the post is moved.I tested versus scan speak kit realized for germany studios(costed 1000 euro in components).

Audes 105 has the same woofer you find out in the Studio version.
This is the photo of the woofer:
http://soundberry.com/images/ed3dc30e.gif
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