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Old 10th October 2012   #1
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using 2 mics on peavey classic 30

I want to mic the classic 30 with an sm7 dynamic and also a blue spark condenser. whats a good starting point when using 2 mics (1 dynamic and 1 condenser) on an amp? how far apart and how far back should the condenser be in relation to the dynamic? should i flip phase on the preamp or software? thank you
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Why these two mics in particular? Just curious. If your room isnt well treated you may get some comb filtering which the condenser may pick up if you're too far away....If you're too close you'll need a pad on the condenser mic. If you can gobo the amp on one side you may win that battle.

With a condenser and a dynamic on an amp I usually start the condenser 2 ft. away and move in from there. Totally dependent on the tone you're looking for. The Shure goes right on the grill.

There shouldnt be a 'phase' problem with this but there will be a 'time' differential. Fix it in the software.

Sometimes, especially if the tone is a smoother Fendery kinda thing, I'll use a condenser in fig of 8 on the back of the amp with the null pointing into the speaker box.

Mostly though, for me, its an old 57 and a ribbon....Royer R101 or an Avantone CR14 both up front
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Why these two mics in particular? Just curious. If your room isnt well treated you may get some comb filtering which the condenser may pick up if you're too far away....If you're too close you'll need a pad on the condenser mic. If you can gobo the amp on one side you may win that battle.

With a condenser and a dynamic on an amp I usually start the condenser 2 ft. away and move in from there. Totally dependent on the tone you're looking for. The Shure goes right on the grill.

There shouldnt be a 'phase' problem with this but there will be a 'time' differential. Fix it in the software.

Sometimes, especially if the tone is a smoother Fendery kinda thing, I'll use a condenser in fig of 8 on the back of the amp with the null pointing into the speaker box.

Mostly though, for me, its an old 57 and a ribbon....Royer R101 or an Avantone CR14 both up front
these mics are i think the best for the sound. basic rock not metal or too hard rock.
i usually find condensers too brittle but they add something good. i do have a gobo. i also have a few other condensors. mk319, akg 220, and an NTK (pretty brittle to begin with). also have an sm7b. when you say 2 feet away should the condenser be in live with the dynamic or other side of speaker? then you go further back with the condenser after 2 feet or closer...thanks
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Try the SM7 in front and the condenser in back, check the phase, blend to taste.

Remember that all of you low end comes from the back of the combo.

I will never ever mic the front of a combo without micing the back again.

Good luck!!!
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here's some mics added to the list..used to using a 57 in front of the grill but looking for some opinions with a second mic from list below..heres the choices

NTK
CADm179
CAD e70
SM57b
SM58
AKG Perception 220
Blue Spark
Oktava mk319
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Why these two mics in particular? Just curious. If your room isnt well treated you may get some comb filtering which the condenser may pick up if you're too far away....If you're too close you'll need a pad on the condenser mic. If you can gobo the amp on one side you may win that battle.

With a condenser and a dynamic on an amp I usually start the condenser 2 ft. away and move in from there. Totally dependent on the tone you're looking for. The Shure goes right on the grill.

There shouldnt be a 'phase' problem with this but there will be a 'time' differential. Fix it in the software.

Sometimes, especially if the tone is a smoother Fendery kinda thing, I'll use a condenser in fig of 8 on the back of the amp with the null pointing into the speaker box.

Mostly though, for me, its an old 57 and a ribbon....Royer R101 or an Avantone CR14 both up front
Phase issue is Time Difference.
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