3rd October 2012
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#31 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 38
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Once again thank you! The PBC sounds amazing. Really another level to the RNLA. I compared the RNLA to the Softube CL1B plugin and am not convinced. It sounds a little more open perhaps and less low end color than the CL1B. RNLA doesn't sound that much better for me to justify investing in a unit. I might get a hold of one PBC and then get another when I can afford it for stereo work. It adds something seriously nice to the low-mids but stays open and clean and drives the sound forward. I guess at this point it all becomes very subjective, but I definitely see where the PBC gets its price tag from.
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4th October 2012
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#32 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Miami FL
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Everyone knows that anything in the box is MUCH better in sound than outboard gear...just buy a decent computer and DAW and get great results with decent plugs...   | |
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4th October 2012
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#33 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 38
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Does the PBC have a constant compression ratio?
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4th October 2012
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#34 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 1,523
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Originally Posted by The Warmth  Does the PBC have a constant compression ratio? | Yep, it's like the 1176 and LA2A that you push the Drive up until you get the amount of compression you are liking. Adjust the attack and release, check the knee for how fast it's biting, readjust the drive for the amount of compression you want and then adjust the output to the right spot and enjoy. It really is a versatile comp especially with the thick mode and would most likely do you a lot more good on more things than the other two.
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9th October 2012
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#35 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Leeds, UK
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I've ordered a PBC. Can't wait to run some tracks through it!
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9th October 2012
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#36 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 536
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Originally Posted by camerondye I did some files for you which I included the original Acoustic Guitar file plus RNC Really Nice Mode and in the not Really Nice Mode. I also included Softube TLA-100A, UAD 33609, LA2A, LA3A, Waves API2500 and Rencomp versions of the same acoustic file. Everything was done in 24bit wav so it's relatively big. I did a strumming acoustic and a picked arpeggiated part. Hope it helps get you an idea and you can alway run your own VST comps on the original file also. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3594604/Rea...20vs%20VST.zip | Wow... thanks soooo much for these sound clips.
It confirmed a purchase i'll be making for the RNC, and I may consider grabbing some UAD plugs now in the future.
I want/need clean compression going in before my AD is hit, to tighten up vocals on the inbound. I don't want the mojo added until after. Awesome.
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9th October 2012
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#37 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 1,523
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Originally Posted by CPhoenix Wow... thanks soooo much for these sound clips.
It confirmed a purchase i'll be making for the RNC, and I may consider grabbing some UAD plugs now in the future.
I want/need clean compression going in before my AD is hit, to tighten up vocals on the inbound. I don't want the mojo added until after. Awesome. |
Glad it helped, if you are after some of the UAD sounds though I would suggest checking out this thread that I've been doing for a couple of years... UAD-1 Effects Thread
and also this one that does basically just bass tones only... Differences in Bass Tone from Different Hardware/Software (Lots of Audio Files) | |
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11th October 2012
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#38 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 867
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Originally Posted by Robbie777 Everyone knows that anything in the box is MUCH better in sound than outboard gear...just buy a decent computer and DAW and get great results with decent plugs... | I don't think anyone says that. It is, rather, "close enough for rock and roll."
You can get a very nice ITB comp for the price of a budget outboard piece.
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6th November 2012
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#39 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 38
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Hey guys, been using the PBC for a while now and it sounds bloody awesome! I've got a question for other users - is the 'drive' control meant to be a make-up gain control too, so that the volume that comes out of the unit is more or less the same as what goes in? Because I have to adjust the output knob to get the levels the same. The reason I'm asking is because a few weeks ago I heard a fizzing/melting type sound coming from what I thought was my PBC - as far as I know everything works and it sounds fine but was wondering whether the make up gain part may have been broken. I hadn't used it enough before this happened to know whether it was normal for to tweak the output control significantly after compression.
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6th November 2012
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#40 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
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Originally Posted by The Warmth Hey guys, been using the PBC for a while now and it sounds bloody awesome! I've got a question for other users - is the 'drive' control meant to be a make-up gain control too, so that the volume that comes out of the unit is more or less the same as what goes in? Because I have to adjust the output knob to get the levels the same. The reason I'm asking is because a few weeks ago I heard a fizzing/melting type sound coming from what I thought was my PBC - as far as I know everything works and it sounds fine but was wondering whether the make up gain part may have been broken. I hadn't used it enough before this happened to know whether it was normal for to tweak the output control significantly after compression. | Nope, the Drive Knob is adding input gain, increasing the signal towards the fixed threshold. The Output knob is the make up gain control. You may have just been distorting the unit with lots of signal. It happens...
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6th November 2012
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#41 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Leeds, UK
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Thank god! Just me being paranoid.
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6th November 2012
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#42 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC
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Gain staging on a compressor with a set threshold is a little different but you really have as much control. If you want clean compression leave your drive low on the PBC and turn up the mic preamp output, If you want more distortion crank the drive and then turn the mic preamp up and down to get the right amount of compression. It doesn't matter what gain gets you over the set threshold inside the PBC but knowing how to control it will get you the sweet spot you are looking for.
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