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Old 11th August 2012   #1
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Recording Projects mc-xxx? A few questions

Hi Everyone!
I started a thread some days ago, asking for advice about getting a sm7b or a GAP pre-73, and after some very good advice and thinking on what I need the most, I've decided to (or at least try to) get a decent sounding condenser microphone.

A clever guy told me about the recording projects mc mics and I think I will follow his advice.
I'd like to get feedback from people that have used, or at least know a bit of thats mics, because I have absolutely no idea on which model would be the most suited to my needs. I don't care about several pickup patterns at this moment, I only want a decent mic that can record vocals that doesn't sound thin, harsh and sibilant. At this ridiculous price I may get a pair to use as overheads, because what I have now is samson c-02 (totally crap).

but I would prefer an unhyped mic, kind of natural dark sound to tame thin female singers a bit, or at least the least hyped one. So, which of the several models (200, 520, 700, 900 etc.) would suit me better for my needs? Would it be a bad move to consider two of their ribbons (mrp-01) at this moment over the condensers for a more neutral, flattering sound?

One last question, if you don't mind answering, how would these condensers compare to the Kel HM-2D? If the differences are big in sound, I may consider an HM-2D instead of two MC's but it would be nice to have a pair for OH's and two Kels are out of my budget now...

Thank you a lot for your time and advice, and apologies for bothering you with my concerns.
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but I would prefer an unhyped mic, kind of natural dark sound to tame thin female singers a bit, or at least the least hyped one. So, which of the several models (200, 520, 700, 900 etc.) would suit me better for my needs? Would it be a bad move to consider two of their ribbons (mrp-01) at this moment over the condensers for a more neutral, flattering sound?

One last question, if you don't mind answering, how would these condensers compare to the Kel HM-2D? If the differences are big in sound, I may consider an HM-2D instead of two MC's but it would be nice to have a pair for OH's and two Kels are out of my budget now...
...first, understand that the Recording Tools and the Kel mics originate from the very same factory (and I'm pretty confident, much to Kel's dismay, that the MC900 is the same mic as the Kel Song Sparrow)...but also keep in mind that all the RT mics (with the exception of the MC900) appear to be stock OEM models, while the Kels are unique/custom designed by Kelly at Kel...based on what you say you're looking for, I'd go with the HM-2D...it's unique in it's voicing (dark, but very clear and detailed) and it's a better quality product, IMHO, than the other RT mics you mentioned, which are good but still display a tendency towards brightness...the HM-2D will give you a sound that falls somewhere between the other RT condenser mics and their ribbon mic...the HM-2D is a keeper!

...but now, I'm gonna gum up the works with another choice...for the same $200 you'd spend for the HM-2D, you can also get a B-Stock (as new) Studio Projects CS5 direct from the manufacturer...this mic originally had a MSRP of $799 and a street price of $499...it has 5 polar-patterns, 4 low-pass filters, 4 high-pass filters and 4 pads...with all of those adjustable options, this mic is like a swiss-army knife...by adjusting the low-pass, you can darken the mic's response...and if you need to bring up the top-end for background vocals, you have the high-pass options...extremely versatile!...it's a very neutral/natural sounding mic, not harsh, not thin and not sibilant...and it's a higher quality product than the others mentioned...and at that price, you cannot lose money...street price new is currently $349-399...I just sold my HM-2D to buy a CS5, and I'm glad I did...I'm impressed with the CS5, especially at $200...as always, YMMV...

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The cs5 looks very good. It's a pitty that I live in Europe, and that offer is not available outside the USA...
So, between the recording tools mics, the mc-900 would be a better quality mic and also a darker one?
I know that the hm-2d may be even darker and beefier, but if the differences are not big and the mc-900 is a decent mic I may go with it cause I can get a pair and use them as OH's and other things.
If they are only slightly hyped I can get a tube transformer pre to tame them later...
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The cs5 looks very good. It's a pitty that I live in Europe, and that offer is not available outside the USA...
So, between the recording tools mics, the mc-900 would be a better quality mic and also a darker one?
I know that the hm-2d may be even darker and beefier, but if the differences are not big and the mc-900 is a decent mic I may go with it cause I can get a pair and use them as OH's and other things.
If they are only slightly hyped I can get a tube transformer pre to tame them later...
...the MC900 has a C12-type capsule and is not, IMHO, a "darker" voiced mic...it seems to have been voiced to flatter female vocals, and I would imagine it to work well on acoustic guitar...on the other hand, the HM-2D exhibits a "darker" voicing and is quite nice on both male and female vocals (and it's more similar to the SM7B, one of your original options)...I would recommend the HM-2D over the MC900 for vocal duties...I have no experience with the other RT mics, so I can't comment on their performance...
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Do you have any thoughts on the stock CS5 ($200) versus the modifiied MCA SP1 (say $160 with a new capsule and a few components)? The obvious difference is $40 buys more flexibility with the switch controls on the CS5, but what about recording vocals?
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Do you have any thoughts on the stock CS5 ($200) versus the modifiied MCA SP1 (say $160 with a new capsule and a few components)? The obvious difference is $40 buys more flexibility with the switch controls on the CS5, but what about recording vocals?
...the CS5 is a very neutral/natural sounding mic...it has a rather smooth top, void of harshness and sibilance...the variable rolloff settings allow for some sculpting of the mic's voicing...but it was clearly designed as a multi purpose tool, much like the C414 or M179...I find it to work nicely on vocals, especially when tracking multiple voices for BGVs...I can't speak to the MCA mods as I've not used one...

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thanks for the prompt reply.

How do you keep finding these deals?
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thanks for the prompt reply.

How do you keep finding these deals?
...a microphone gearhead with too much time on his hands?...
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