5th July 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2011
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Thread Starter | Buying Headphones
Hello Everybody,
Basically I'm going to move to Germany soon, and probably do some travelling this creates a situation where I cant really have monitors, so I need to buy some quality headphones to continue creating music.
Currently I'm into techno and minimal and it's probably gonna stay that way for a long long time, along with electronic I also do some orchestral/trailer music so it's not all just electronic.
Looking for quality headphones, with a great sound quality that I can really tweak the tracks to sound amazing and have a great mix. The budget is about 250-300 euros. So i would like to hear which headphone you guys recommend and which should suit the best for this type of music.
Sound interface will be a focusrite scarlett 18i6(this was suggested in the forum to be the best for the 300 euro buget, I would like an RME400..but it's expensive at the moment). Along with that, will I need a headphone amp?
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5th July 2012
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#2 | | Gear addict
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Posting on this so I don't lose the thread as I need the same answer.
cheers.
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5th July 2012
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#3 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Montréal |
I'm looking at Shure SRH 840... but have the same question!
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5th July 2012
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#4 | | audio slave
Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Moscow
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AKG K550? The're closed and circumaural.
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#5 | | Gear maniac
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I have a pair of AKG K-701's that I really like. But I do sometimes have trouble judging the bass with them, so I don't know if they'd be so great for electronic music.
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5th July 2012
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#6 | | Gear addict
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Well I'm looking at sennhieser HD's. Used by loads of DJs and in monitor rooms. I need them for all manner of genre from scores to EDM. I will probably get these unless I'm swayed otherwise.
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5th July 2012
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#7 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Montréal |
Which model eddie.machete ? HD 600?
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#8 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Philadelphia
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The mentioned Shure's have pretty epic bass, but if you're mixing and want something flatter (if you're used to working with near fields monitors....) nobody ever regrets AKG. If you won't be on trains all the time, go open back for truer sound (*generally*)
I get great mileage out of my AKG K240s out of my scarlett 2i2 but *sometimes* they feel like they could use a little more driving power. Not sure about the 701s I'd assume the resistance is the same. I use them for classical music, scoring, edm, and even mixed a garage rock band with them way back in the day (and it turned out fine - ymmv)
If you care about mixing your scoring work, I would stay away from "DJ" popular phones, as they tend to be anything but flat.
If you're traveling a lot and like something smaller, KRK makes a couple of pairs that could be right what you're looking for - probably way under your budget, but (FROM MY EXPERIENCE) going from $50-$150 is a huge jump in headphones. $150-300 is not so much. To make it worth going over $150, the real improvements I've seen start around $700+ (grado/etc)
Good luck!
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5th July 2012
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#9 | | Gear addict
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Hd 25-1 . Of course they are for reference and I don't want them scooped, I wouldn't buy anything just cuz DJs use them, but these are used in studios too. I don't have a room yet and decided unless I have a treated room I'm going to look for good cans. And a vrm box. I can also take it out my set up and put it through some Adams at a label studio too before the track is mastered.
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6th July 2012
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#10 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2011
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These 701's are mentioned a lot on the forum...mixing electronic music is more important to me than the classical music simply because I'll be doing it more.
Are there any headphones that can cover both fields? the 701's cost exactly 300 euros so they fit the budget...but if there are better options I would like to hear about them.
Thanks!
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6th July 2012
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#11 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Montréal |
Shure srh 940?
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6th July 2012
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#12 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Montréal |
For bass I would go to Denon ah D2000
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6th July 2012
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#13 | | Gear nut
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I also forgot to ask the opinion about the HD600
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#14 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Montréal |
I have heard only good things about HD 600, if I had the money, I would go for those
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6th July 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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My favorite headphones that I have used for comfort are for sure the Beyerdynamic 770 cans. I love wearing those--I could (and do) use them all day. But I find them to be a little boomy. These are closed back and I got them mainly for tracking to avoid bleed. Maybe the open back version would be a better choice for mixing on the go. The 880 or 990?
At work I am using a pair of Sony MDR-7506 cans. They sound very natural, they close down well for field work (which is what they are getting used for) and they are CHEAP! The Sony headphones are comfortable enough, I do not ever mind wearing them for hours at a time when we are out in the field recording. I am not sure how they would translate to your music. These are not hyped at all, just natural.
Another option that has worked very well for me to do mixing on the go is a pair of Shure E3 earbuds with the foam inserts. I have found that for me, the older E3 earbuds/ in-ear monitors delivered very good mixing results while on the go that translated well to my studio monitor environment. The key for me is having the yellow foam inserts which form a very tight seal on the ear canal--sort of like a poor man's in-ear molds. Just make sure you get plenty of spare foam inserts if you'll be traveling as they do wear out over time. Like the Sony headphones, the E3 in-ear monitors are not hyped, but are pretty natural sounding.
This search is a difficult one in that, like any monitors, what works for me may not work for you. Good luck on sorting through your options. I imagine you'll need to balance comfort against portability and against quality of sound for a traveling rig.
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6th July 2012
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#16 | | Gear nut
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I'm kinda thinking either the HD600 or the AKG 701, read lots of good reviews online, what do you guys here think about them?
Someone mentioned that the bass on the 701 is problematic for electronic music, what exactly is the issue?
I'll also check the akg k550 that were offered here, but it seems that people use them really to listed to music.
By the way, I think some have misunderstood me, when I mean traveling I don't mean that I'll be making music while on a train or what not, I'll have steady quite places to make music, I can take monitors only because they take too much space
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7th July 2012
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#17 | | audio slave
Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Moscow
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People use them to listen to music because they are closed back and comfortable, but they are reference-class. If you have a quiet workplace, you'll probably benefit from open back designs more because they tend to sound more naturally (perhaps because your pinnae and auditory channel do not contribute to the effective volume the speakers operate towards)
I'd go for AKG K701.
Cheers, Ace.
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#18 | | Gear nut
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+1 to K701/K702. I would also recommend pairing these with transparent source (dac, soundcard, ...) and a solid/transparent headphone amplifier (with lowest output impedance/distortion possible) - my experience without proper hp amping = muddy low end and very bright high end, fatiguing and totally unlistenable combo to me. When I properly amped them, the difference was huge = well balanced and non-fatiguing sound, a pleasure to listen all-day experience |
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#19 | | Gear addict
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I'll also add a vote for the K701. I've never regretted the decision to buy mine and I've completed many, many commercial mixes with them to the complete satisfaction of myself and clients.
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Puffer Fish My favorite headphones that I have used for comfort are for sure the Beyerdynamic 770 cans. I love wearing those--I could (and do) use them all day. But I find them to be a little boomy. These are closed back and I got them mainly for tracking to avoid bleed. Maybe the open back version would be a better choice for mixing on the go. The 880 or 990? | I use the DT770's for tracking and really like them a lot. They're not exactly like my monitors, but they're close enough that I can predict how a source will sound. I haven't tracked anything where I liked the sound through the DT770's and didn't like the end result more.
That said, I think I'd also recommend a pair of open-backed cans for mixing. The D770's are closed back, and could get a little claustrophobic for that purpose. Quote:
Originally Posted by Puffer Fish At work I am using a pair of Sony MDR-7506 cans. They sound very natural, they close down well for field work (which is what they are getting used for) and they are CHEAP! The Sony headphones are comfortable enough, I do not ever mind wearing them for hours at a time when we are out in the field recording. I am not sure how they would translate to your music. These are not hyped at all, just natural. | This is one of those weird things about headphones. Different people tend to have very different reactions to them. Maybe it has something to do with how they interface with the skull. I found the MD-7506's to be very hyped, and ended up giving them away. They weren't bad, and I can totally see that a singer might want to monitor through them, but I couldn't track through them, and wouldn't consider them for mixing. Maybe they're not hyped, though. Maybe they just sit on my head in a way that the bass is weak.
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7th July 2012
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#21 | | Gear nut
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Well It seems that the k701's are a good choice, what is a recommended headphone amp to buy for them?
Sound interface will be focusrite scarlett 18i6
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7th July 2012
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#22 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Anadrolic Well It seems that the k701's are a good choice, what is a recommended headphone amp to buy for them?
Sound interface will be focusrite scarlett 18i6 | I think you can't go wrong with an O2 amplifier - see my posts about it in another threads here @ gs. Hope it helps |
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8th July 2012
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#23 | | Gear nut
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I haven't found a dealer near me for that thing...I'm considering the personous headphone amp..although it has more than one channel which I don't need.
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8th July 2012
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#24 | | Gear addict
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Guys what do you need a headphone amp for? Running through an interface isn't sufficient?
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9th July 2012
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#25 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by eddie.machete Guys what do you need a headphone amp for? Running through an interface isn't sufficient?
Sent from my Acer E320 using Gearslutz App | Running through an interface which has output impedance much higher than headphones' own impedance (and several other things to consider too) can make the headphones sound different (depending on hp's impedance curve that is not that flat, there could be audible variations in frequency/phase response)...
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9th July 2012
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#26 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Anadrolic I haven't found a dealer near me for that thing...I'm considering the personous headphone amp..although it has more than one channel which I don't need. | Have you tried googling? I know of 2 serious builders who can supply you with an assembled O2 (one from the US and the other one from UK), but I'd rather stay away from ebay offers...
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9th July 2012
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#27 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by mir Have you tried googling? I know of 2 serious builders who can supply you with an assembled O2 (one from the US and the other one from UK), but I'd rather stay away from ebay offers... | I haven't found any UK builders - do please share!!
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9th July 2012
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#28 | | Lives for gear
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Ath-m50 for club music
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14th August 2012
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#30 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by mir | Ta! |
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