16th May 2012
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#1 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | shure sm7b and dust damage?
I have a shure sm7b thats brand new from guitar cent*r. I have tested its sound design and response and I have found that I like the shure sm7b much better without any of the windscreens provided on.
However I have a few questions for you guys and hoping anyone with some solid advice, can help me/guide me in a direction that would benefit me and my shure sm7b.
Question 1. I have the windscreen OFF and the Dynamic Moving Coil is exposed to all airborne elements in my room, So how to I protect the moving coil from dust particles and other airborne elements without using the windscreen?
I ask Question 1 because I am afraid that dust and other airborne elements that land and settle on the Dynamic moving Coil would effect the sound of the Shure Sm7b.
Question 2. If I do notice dust, hair, etc on the head of the moving coil what should I do to remove it? I know a logical answer for this question would be "blow on it in hopes that the particle moves" but someone told me blowing on the microphone is bad which i find hard to believe since speaking into it and singing puts a good amount of air pressure on it as it is, but i just want to double check.
Question 3. For the shure sm7b owners.....How do you guys maintain and keep your shure sm7b like new?
I hope I dont annoy some of you with this thread, I know theres plenty of sm7b threads, but I havent seen anything covering the questions I asked. |
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16th May 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Remember that the sm7b is a dynamic mic, not a condenser, and as such is far less sensitive to things like airborn particles. I know plenty of people who regularly use the mic without the windscreen. Dust particles and such aren't substantial enough to effect the sound of a moving coil mic like the sm7b. Ever seen someone worrying about dust in a sm57? It's the same capsule.
Blowing into mics is never a good idea, but once again, the sm7b is a dynamic and probably wouldn't be damaged. Still, it shouldn't be necessary.
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16th May 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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If you're worried about it, leave a plastic bag over the mic, open at the bottom, when it's not in use. That's what we do with expensive condenser mics.
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16th May 2012
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Alden Ever seen someone worrying about dust in a sm57? It's the same capsule.
| The capsule in the SM57 is protected by the microphones head which contains the pop filter. This will protect the capsule from dust particles much better than the open screen of the SM7. Are you saying that the capsules in the SM7b and the SM57 are completely interchangeable? If you are, I've never heard of this. The last time I checked, they had different part numbers. A lot of the Shure microphones seemed to use the same capsule, such as the element in the Shure SM5B looks a lot like a 57 capsule.
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16th May 2012
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by uncle duncan If you're worried about it, leave a plastic bag over the mic, open at the bottom, when it's not in use. That's what we do with expensive condenser mics. | If he has the original wind screen, I would just store it with that attached.
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16th May 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by audiotech If he has the original wind screen, I would just store it with that attached.
Dennis | Agree. Just pop the foam windscreen back on for storage. That's about all it's good for! I never us that thing with the mic...robs all of the high end.
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16th May 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by audiotech The capsule in the SM57 is protected by the microphones head which contains the pop filter. This will protect the capsule from dust particles much better than the open screen of the SM7. Are you saying that the capsules in the SM7b and the SM57 are completely interchangeable? If you are, I've never heard of this. The last time I checked, they had different part numbers. A lot of the Shure microphones seemed to use the same capsule, such as the element in the Shure SM5B looks a lot like a 57 capsule.
Dennis | Fair point. And I guess I was mistaken; recordinghacks says the sm7b capsule is based on the same capsule, but not identical.
Still, I've met plenty of people who ditched the windscreen without concern. I wouldn't be inclined to stress it.
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16th May 2012
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#8 | | Gear interested
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You guys rock! Audiotech that's exactly why I asked my questions, because the shielding around the shure sm7b coil is completely different than the shielding that protects the shure sm57 coil, otherwise I doubt I would have ever created this thread. I am very very very protective of and careful with my gear lol. I guess ill just use the windscreen as suggested and use it as a dust cover.
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16th May 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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As I've posted before.... you know those cloth bags they sell at the grocery store for 99cents?
Turn it upside down and put it over the mic...
I keep one over my MD-421
(duh... take the groceries out first!)
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16th May 2012
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#10 | | Gear interested
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99cents? Jeez what a deal they cost 5$ over here! Thanks for the idea :-)
PS. I think I might just leave food in the bag when I dump it over the Mic, it might give the shure sm7b some "flavor" haha.
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17th May 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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The thing you've got to watch out for with cloth bags is lint. Condenser mics will suck up the lint and deposit it on the capsule.
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17th May 2012
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#12 | | Gear interested
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Ill make sure to keep an eye out for that then thanks!
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18th May 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by LucyYorkshire its really ok to dip the front end of an SM7b in warm (not hot) water, then use your gfs hair drier to dry it off and remove any remaining schmutz. I personally don't like to use compressed air - too harsh and it can collapse the diaphragm. a fine, 'fan tail' artists brush is ok too, but a nice gentle soak in warm water just gets it all relaxed and funky sounding. | !
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18th May 2012
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#14 | | Taking Down your Network
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I have de-funkified a 58 that way. It sounded different afterward. Not in a bad way.
It was in ugly shape; fell into a buffet. Some kind of tomato sauce
Not joking.
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18th May 2012
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#15 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by LucyYorkshire its really ok to dip the front end of an SM7b in warm (not hot) water, then use your gfs hair drier to dry it off and remove any remaining schmutz. I personally don't like to use compressed air - too harsh and it can collapse the diaphragm. a fine, 'fan tail' artists brush is ok too, but a nice gentle soak in warm water just gets it all relaxed and funky sounding. | Got any direct links/articles to validate your method?
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18th May 2012
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#16 | | Lives for gear
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Sorry, I know it's good to take care of your gear and all, but man.
Don't get paranoid. It's an SM7. These things are damn near indestructible.
The water thing probably would be alright, but if being this cautious, use distilled water. The coil is copper. The pipes in your house are probably copper, they aren't rusting are they?
Compressed air might rip the embossed diaphragm, be careful.
I wouldn't bother doing either of these things, and wouldn't worry about it unless you drop it in a pile of dust, or worse, ferrous metal filings.
I would just put the windscreen on when done, and do nothing.
If and when it gets such a build up of dust and grime in it (what...53 years from now?) buy a replacement capsule cartridge from Shure and you have a brand new mic. They have to be less than $100.
The cartridge for an SM57 is $50 replaced, if you send it to the factory and let them do it. Not including shipping from your place to them, but they pay the shipping back.
Way too much stress for an issue that is virtually non existent. Normal household dust will not affect it if stored in a drawer or something.
That said, don't be rolling it in your cat's litter box or some crazy sh*t.
I mean, what are you doing with the mic to get it so dusty? Do you record in a wood shop?
Sorry if I sound like a smart a**
Relax man, you are fine.
john
PS: ok sorry I was kinda being a smart a**.
If you are seriously thinking of putting liquid in there, at least consider tape head cleaner or alcohol, 91% at least. Or even better maybe deoxit? Spray from a distance though.....compressed air again.
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18th May 2012
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWTON IN ORBIT Sorry, I know it's good to take care of your gear and all, but man.
Don't get paranoid. It's an SM7. These things are damn near indestructible.
The water thing probably would be alright, but if being this cautious, use distilled water. The coil is copper. The pipes in your house are probably copper, they aren't rusting are they?
Compressed air might rip the embossed diaphragm, be careful.
I wouldn't bother doing either of these things, and wouldn't worry about it unless you drop it in a pile of dust, or worse, ferrous metal filings.
I would just put the windscreen on when done, and do nothing.
If and when it gets such a build up of dust and grime in it (what...53 years from now?) buy a replacement capsule cartridge from Shure and you have a brand new mic. They have to be less than $100.
The cartridge for an SM57 is $50 replaced, if you send it to the factory and let them do it. Not including shipping from your place to them, but they pay the shipping back.
Way too much stress for an issue that is virtually non existent. Normal household dust will not affect it if stored in a drawer or something.
That said, don't be rolling it in your cat's litter box or some crazy sh*t.
I mean, what are you doing with the mic to get it so dusty? Do you record in a wood shop?
Sorry if I sound like a smart a**
Relax man, you are fine.
john
PS: ok sorry I was kinda being a smart a**.
If you are seriously thinking of putting liquid in there, at least consider tape head cleaner or alcohol, 91% at least. Or even better maybe deoxit? Spray from a distance though.....compressed air again. | LOL john its cool you gave me a couple laughs while giving me some advice so thank you. I dont record in a woodshop but I do record in an enviroment where there is a lot more dust than a professional studio/clean room.
And no I dont think I will try the liquid solution method for cleaning it, I thought that the poster that originally posted that idea was actually joking and I was just responding to see if maybe he was being honest, I am quite surprised.
Cheers.
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19th May 2012
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#18 | | Gear Head
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If it gets that dusty a paint brush will always do the trick just get a big artists paint brush and rub it over before use that should help
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19th May 2012
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#19 | | Gear interested
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Now that's a good idea sheoth!
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