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Reamping on a budget...

I'm a fair ways from buying anything for reamping, but I'm curious about the gear. I like Radial products, use a couple of their DI's regularly. Looking at their product listings, the have a few reamping options:

Reamp JCR - XAmp - ProRMP

Considering cost is a factor, and I only really need one output because I can reamp several times for different amps rather than once for multiple amps, which would you pick and why? Are there other more effective options out there for less money?

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There is a thread on the high end section about this recently. Seems that Little Labs has a product that is well thought of.
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excuse my dummy question.

a -40dB's pad is not ok, for a budget LINE to mic/inst signal to REAMP thru a mic pre ?.

DIY with resistors or some like SM Nano patch ? (passive, variable and supposedly neutral/linear pad).
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one useful piece of kit around the place is an ART cleanbox , either the original , or the later "pro" (not the clean box 2, it lacks variable gain)


handy for lots of things, like hooking up consumer gear in to a pro system, or weird fx processors in to guitar amps, mating unbalanced insert points to gear that only likes balanced I/O ,
bi-directionally moving from unbalanced -10 to balanced +4 nominal line levels, transformer isolated to avoid earth loops , and not so bad sounding as to be horrid....

AND..... Re-amping.


thanks to the variable gain, in amongst the uses is the useful ability to move from a balanced +4 line outs to unbalanced amp , instrument level inputs....

it's perhaps not QUITE "authentic" in terms of the sequence of impedance matching, but it is certainly close enough to get the job done , without excess noise, when a proper re-amping box is not handily available....


cheap, reliable, flexible, and very useful


i'd rather have the dedicated Radial units, but..... sometimes it's useful to know you can press other units in to service if needed.
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I'm a fair ways from buying anything for reamping, but I'm curious about the gear. I like Radial products, use a couple of their DI's regularly. Looking at their product listings, the have a few reamping options:

Reamp JCR - XAmp - ProRMP

Considering cost is a factor, and I only really need one output because I can reamp several times for different amps rather than once for multiple amps, which would you pick and why? Are there other more effective options out there for less money?

Jacob
I myself use the X-Amp and love it to death. Reliable, easy-to-use, and to my ears, transparently does its job without adding or taking anything away. I use mine for guitar, bass, and have even used it to re-amp a vocal track into a fuzz pedal and guitar amp. Worth the $$$ and can easily be found on eBay for relatively cheap.
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Impedance transformer

I use an impedance matcher to reamp from a MOTU896 XLR Balanced out to any amp / pedal ,etc...

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just watch the level on your way out of your interface... not your typical reamp box, no bells and whistle, but I don't feel anything is missing. I use this ofr guitars, bass, drum room mics, etc... never failed on me, signal is always clean as can be.

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If you're savvy with a soldering iron you can build a reamp for $35.

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That's nothing! I paid €12.50 for my re-amp set up.

Get the cheapest passive DI you can get, plug it in backwards from your mixer to your amp. That is the input goes to the Low Z out of the DI and output comes out the High Z input.

I've A/B'd it and I've linked it on this site before, the difference between the re-amp vs. straight signal is subtle enough to be ignored. If anything, some people prefer the re-amp version!
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That's nothing! I paid €12.50 for my re-amp set up.

Get the cheapest passive DI you can get, plug it in backwards from your mixer to your amp. That is the input goes to the Low Z out of the DI and output comes out the High Z input.

I've A/B'd it and I've linked it on this site before, the difference between the re-amp vs. straight signal is subtle enough to be ignored. If anything, some people prefer the re-amp version!
I'm aware of the technique, I was just honestly unsure about its usability. I've heard differing reports from all over about how well this method works. Not to say you're wrong, just that I am unsure about it.
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Werd, that reverse-wiring setup came straight out of the Radial JDI manual that popped out of a nice new box the other day....if mr Radial said so it's cool by me!
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Werd, that reverse-wiring setup came straight out of the Radial JDI manual that popped out of a nice new box the other day....if mr Radial said so it's cool by me!
Perfect. I have a Radial JDI.

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Can't go wrong with a Radial. Make sure it's a reamp box and not a DI in reverse.
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eh? way do you have to buy something to reamp? cables, mic, source sound? I guess i don't understand.
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I have the Palmer DACCAPO reamp box. It's cheap, sturdy and works great.
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the passive DI backwards isn't really ideal as your not matching the impedance like a specifically designed reamp box does.
also, a reamp box converts line level signal to instrument level.
A passive DI used backwards converts mic level to instrument level.
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Those with the D.I.Y. reamp kit, did you go for the $50 or just the $35. The price difference is not too much. I just don't know if it is a decent box.

My G.A.S. really wants me to have the pigtronix keymaster, but $250...

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I don't intend to hijack this thread, but I have a silly question about reamping. Do any of you just use the reamp boxes to use guitar type effects on non-guitar tracks, and just plug right back into the interface?

I could "reamp" but sometimes I think I would like to keep it quiet.

I guess I could invest in an isolation cab as well.
thanks!
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well if you are using guitar pedals with a DAW interface for example, i would go interface-reamp-pedal-di-interface.

does that answer your question?
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Yes it does. I guess there are no real rules when it comes to this sort of thing. I have an OLD Tech 21 bass di (the one with without a footswitch and internal trimpots) that may work, and/ or the Focusrite ISA One.

Thanks.
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