Classic SM57's - Page 2

Harley-OIART · 21st April 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley-OIART

My question is, do any of you veterans know if there is anyone who re-conditions (restores) Dynamic Moving-Coils? Just Curious.
~Scott in Toronto
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Originally Posted by joeq

Meanwhile, gotta search eBay for those NOS 57s!

It's times like this I recall how daft I can be

... Thanks for stating the obvious to a young fool like myself - embarassed am I that I forgot 'NOS' considering I was always buying NOS 12AX7 Tubes a few years ago!

Cheers.

Signed,
~Juvenile in Scarborough

dbbubba · 21st April 2006

The Unidyne IV that you have JOEYQ is a 548 (?) and they were everywhere in the early to late '70s.
If you look at pics from live rigs (Led Zepp, ZZ Top, McCartney or most any Showco p.a.) they were used for evrything.

In retrospect they were not very good.

I had about twelve of them once.
I sang into one of them every night for years.

Once we actually, bought SM58s for vocals and SM57s for GTRs and stuff the 548s went into the trash can or pawshop.

... but if you find a use for it.

I wouldn't spend lunch money on one.

Then again, the crowd that was "into" the Yamaha PM1000 channel strips for their "great" sound might find them usefull. They certianly were used together a lot!

Interesting that people actually compare new and old 57s though.
We probebly have thirty or so in our live p.a. inventory and I have a collection of my own. In the "live" stuff there is a Unidyne with a switch. I'll have to try a side by side A/B comparison soon.

Comparing 57s is like comparing Buick station wagons!
Good sounding Buick station wagons, but Buicks none the less!

Danny Bown

Gomez · 21st April 2006

Sorry it's taking me ages. I wrote the name of the mic but I forgot the paper at home

It looks a bit like this:
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/jaimegomezarellano/shure-57style.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a>

But it's not the right mic, Mine has a shape more like a sm57. I think it'd called "PEL (something)" but I can't remeber.

The Shure logo is written in red, it has a switch and it says "Made in the U.S.A"

Do guys have any ideas of what my mic is?

everybody's x · 21st April 2006

a unidyne B maybe?

AKA, 517 0r 519

frq response is something like 80-10k

too narrow for my tastes, mostly used in drive-thru window applications

joeq · 21st April 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbbubba

The Unidyne IV that you have JOEYQ is a 548 (?) and they were everywhere in the early to late '70s.
If you look at pics from live rigs (Led Zepp, ZZ Top, McCartney or most any Showco p.a.) they were used for evrything.

In retrospect they were not very good.

That's not what I wanted to hear.

I wanted someone to say say "Wow - a Unidyne IV!! you lucky bastard!"

chessparov · 21st April 2006

boulty, IIRC if you go to Shure's website they have manual info on these models.

BTW the 548 was intended to be a more "pro" Unidyne (like the 546/56).
This is in terms of product consistancy.

If you ask someone like Bob Ohlsson, I bet he'll give you a positive evaluation.

IMHO the issue with the 548 may have pertained to the FOH technician, as they have a different tone than the familiar '57.

Like many other singers, until teeming a Unidyne with a good pre, and proper placement/EQ, believed them to be second-rate for me.

Chris

Gomez · 27th April 2006

Ok... FINALLY I manged to take a picture. A really horrible one (mobile phone camera). sorry.

Does anyone know this mic? It's a Shure PE65L. It says "made in the U.S.A." Also says Lo Z (impedance).

The picture really is rubbish. The shape it's almost identical to SM57. The only difference is the switch.

These Mic used to belong to my mum. I picked it up a few years back and only found it again recently.

I have not been able to find much info about it.

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/jaimegomezarellano/25042006051.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a>

Gomez · 2nd May 2006

Bumpage

Harley-OIART · 7th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gomez

(Post Edited by Harley-OIART)
===========================================

Does anyone know this mic?

It's a Shure PE65L.

-It is "made in the U.S.A."
-Has Lo-Z (impedance).
-Shape is almost identical to SM57.
-Only difference is the switch.

I have not been able to find much info about it.
~Gomez

Very Cool Mic. Definetely a 57 Variant. Howz the old Beast sound?
Gotta love those indestructable 57's....

~Scott

P.S>(I Didn't know how else to ressurect this thread)

Gomez · 7th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley-OIART

Very Cool Mic. Definetely a 57 Variant. Howz the old Beast sound?
Gotta love those indestructable 57's....

~Scott

P.S>(I Didn't know how else to ressurect this thread)

How does it sound... I don't know. The last time I used this mic I was probably 16 years old! I need to give it a shot soon

squeegybug · 8th May 2006

Doesn't everyone know by now, that the old version of *anything* is **always** better than the new one.

And even better, if the old one cannot possibly be bought anymore. And even more better, if *I* have one and you don't.

At least according to every GS thread I've ever read....

Steve

theblotted · 11th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeegybug

Doesn't everyone know by now, that the old version of *anything* is **always** better than the new one.

And even better, if the old one cannot possibly be bought anymore. And even more better, if *I* have one and you don't.

At least according to every GS thread I've ever read....

Steve

except a SM7.

i know you're being a bit sarcastic, but you're right; most of the time, cuz companies figure out how to cut costs and learn to ride on coattails.

krs · 14th May 2006

Just picked up a Unidyne III Made in the USA. There IS a difference, and it isn't subtle

Harley-OIART · 6th June 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by krs

Just picked up a Unidyne III Made in the USA. There IS a difference, and it isn't subtle

Yeah it is not exactly "Barely Noticeable" isn't it thumbsup I'm so glad I managed to find a nice, almost mint condition, unidyne III SM-57!

**George Necola** · 6th June 2006

have 2 Unidyne III mics here.. as far as I know the "best sounding SM57"..

whitepapagold · 3rd July 2006

Just got my second and I will go to those before the others EVERYTIME. If you use 57s- try some. Personally much preferred. Hard to find but not too expensive!

Heres crappy phone pics- mine is almost identical(other than some body width) to the new sm57.

TheArchitect · 3rd July 2006

What are you guys plugging these things into for the comparison? The load the mic sees from the preamp makes a huge difference with these mics. The 57's I experimented with were way better with a much lower load (500 or ) than they were with say 1300-1500 (typical Mackie pre). Just looking for a little context on the comparisons.

whitepapagold · 3rd July 2006

pres compared/used excessively- Neve V series, Trident 80 series, BAE 1272, GML stereo pre, and focusrite red series. I used them at studios for a while before getting my own. There was a reason when I bought the two I have, they were all in use in rooms and the rest (the other 16) usually sit in the box. They were sold to me as a thanks- but I wasn't the only one pulling them first. And since there were only four total, we often used new 57s side by side. Though as always- if you dont hear it- who cares? Get a new one. Still a great mic.

2012 · 4th July 2006

What is the difference between the Shure Unidyne III 545's and 57's, besides color & switch ?

dinais · 15th July 2006

thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley-OIART

Does anyone know a good place (aside from my dreams) to find :

New, Mint Condition (or Close to), American Made, Shure SM57's?

I Love 57's and use them regularly, but I am purchasing some for my studio and I really would like to get my hands on a 'real' one - (American not Mexican).

Should I get in line, or is there hope?

-Scott in Toronto

I have a USA made unidyne 111 dynamic
shure bros.
I also have the complete machine lectrosonics
this came with two microphones- however I only have one
yes it is for sale- any one interested.
I will be posting it on ebay next week- so please let me know if you want to save me the trouble.
oh and this works perfectly by the way
looks brand new- can send pics..
www.dinais2000@yahoo.com

bachconnelly · 18th July 2006

After reading this post.. i randomly checked my mic locker to find a Unidyne III 545SD and I was curious if this is the "old 57" everyone is talking about or if there is another type of mic that is a Unidyne III 57. Could someone end my confusion before I explode wondering if I have a sweet new snare mic!!

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/image...s/nu/icon5.gif

Wurly_b · 18th July 2006

Is there a way to tell if you have a counterfeit Shure sm57 ?
S/N ? Codes ? Parts ?

I bought a Shure 57 about 10 years back. The price was cheap, and the shop when out of biz after a few years. The mic never just sounded right to me.
Maybe I should buy another one to compare.
or..... maybe I need a better preamp.

Acoustic Cloud · 18th July 2006

I think an i5 sounds better anyway, so who cares??

whitepapagold · 18th July 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wurly_b

Is there a way to tell if you have a counterfeit Shure sm57 ?
S/N ? Codes ? Parts ?

I bought a Shure 57 about 10 years back. The price was cheap, and the shop when out of biz after a few years. The mic never just sounded right to me.
Maybe I should buy another one to compare.
.

Funny, I always thought the same thing about the newer 57 I got 5 years ago. I wouldn't be suprised if there were some quality control issues with anything that is manufactured in that quantity. I pulled out the unidyne 57 and the new 57 and the unidyne made the other sound broken. This thread made me a/b it again and there is NO COMPARISON. The best part is you can pick one up for less than a new 57 costs. Sadly, I bet not for long!

21st April 2006	#34
everybody's x Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kansas city Posts: 1,618	a unidyne B maybe? AKA, 517 0r 519 frq response is something like 80-10k too narrow for my tastes, mostly used in drive-thru window applications __________________ Dave

4th July 2006	#49
2012 Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 392	545/57 Unidyne III What is the difference between the Shure Unidyne III 545's and 57's, besides color & switch ?

18th July 2006	#51
bachconnelly Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 116	CONFUSED NOW!? After reading this post.. i randomly checked my mic locker to find a Unidyne III 545SD and I was curious if this is the "old 57" everyone is talking about or if there is another type of mic that is a Unidyne III 57. Could someone end my confusion before I explode wondering if I have a sweet new snare mic!! http://www.gearslutz.com/board/image...s/nu/icon5.gif __________________ D-Bird Bached Up Records

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21st April 2006	#32
dbbubba Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,099	The Unidyne IV that you have JOEYQ is a 548 (?) and they were everywhere in the early to late '70s. If you look at pics from live rigs (Led Zepp, ZZ Top, McCartney or most any Showco p.a.) they were used for evrything. In retrospect they were not very good. I had about twelve of them once. I sang into one of them every night for years. Once we actually, bought SM58s for vocals and SM57s for GTRs and stuff the 548s went into the trash can or pawshop. ... but if you find a use for it. I wouldn't spend lunch money on one. Then again, the crowd that was "into" the Yamaha PM1000 channel strips for their "great" sound might find them usefull. They certianly were used together a lot! Interesting that people actually compare new and old 57s though. We probebly have thirty or so in our live p.a. inventory and I have a collection of my own. In the "live" stuff there is a Unidyne with a switch. I'll have to try a side by side A/B comparison soon. Comparing 57s is like comparing Buick station wagons! Good sounding Buick station wagons, but Buicks none the less! Danny Bown

21st April 2006	#33
Gomez Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London U.K. Posts: 323	Sorry it's taking me ages. I wrote the name of the mic but I forgot the paper at home It looks a bit like this: <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/jaimegomezarellano/shure-57style.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a> But it's not the right mic, Mine has a shape more like a sm57. I think it'd called "PEL (something)" but I can't remeber. The Shure logo is written in red, it has a switch and it says "Made in the U.S.A" Do guys have any ideas of what my mic is?

21st April 2006	#36
chessparov Jr. Gear Slut 2nd class Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,761	boulty, IIRC if you go to Shure's website they have manual info on these models. BTW the 548 was intended to be a more "pro" Unidyne (like the 546/56). This is in terms of product consistancy. If you ask someone like Bob Ohlsson, I bet he'll give you a positive evaluation. IMHO the issue with the 548 may have pertained to the FOH technician, as they have a different tone than the familiar '57. Like many other singers, until teeming a Unidyne with a good pre, and proper placement/EQ, believed them to be second-rate for me. Chris

27th April 2006	#37
Gomez Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London U.K. Posts: 323	Ok... FINALLY I manged to take a picture. A really horrible one (mobile phone camera). sorry. Does anyone know this mic? It's a Shure PE65L. It says "made in the U.S.A." Also says Lo Z (impedance). The picture really is rubbish. The shape it's almost identical to SM57. The only difference is the switch. These Mic used to belong to my mum. I picked it up a few years back and only found it again recently. I have not been able to find much info about it. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/jaimegomezarellano/25042006051.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a>

2nd May 2006	#38
Gomez Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London U.K. Posts: 323	Bumpage

8th May 2006	#41
squeegybug Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: MO USA Posts: 2,152	Doesn't everyone know by now, that the old version of anything is always better than the new one. And even better, if the old one cannot possibly be bought anymore. And even more better, if I have one and you don't. At least according to every GS thread I've ever read.... Steve

14th May 2006	#43
krs Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 882	Just picked up a Unidyne III Made in the USA. There IS a difference, and it isn't subtle

3rd July 2006	#47
TheArchitect Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,131	What are you guys plugging these things into for the comparison? The load the mic sees from the preamp makes a huge difference with these mics. The 57's I experimented with were way better with a much lower load (500 or ) than they were with say 1300-1500 (typical Mackie pre). Just looking for a little context on the comparisons.

3rd July 2006	#48
whitepapagold Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Penis Kitchen, California Posts: 1,230	pres compared/used excessively- Neve V series, Trident 80 series, BAE 1272, GML stereo pre, and focusrite red series. I used them at studios for a while before getting my own. There was a reason when I bought the two I have, they were all in use in rooms and the rest (the other 16) usually sit in the box. They were sold to me as a thanks- but I wasn't the only one pulling them first. And since there were only four total, we often used new 57s side by side. Though as always- if you dont hear it- who cares? Get a new one. Still a great mic.

18th July 2006	#52
Wurly_b Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada, Alberta Posts: 43	Is there a way to tell if you have a counterfeit Shure sm57 ? S/N ? Codes ? Parts ? I bought a Shure 57 about 10 years back. The price was cheap, and the shop when out of biz after a few years. The mic never just sounded right to me. Maybe I should buy another one to compare. or..... maybe I need a better preamp.

18th July 2006	#53
Acoustic Cloud Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: around the corner Posts: 1,990	I think an i5 sounds better anyway, so who cares??