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Audio Technica Pro37 real opinions

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I am in the market for some budget overheads, and need some advice. I have an AT2020 and was thinking about getting another one to have stereo OHs. Would getting the Pro37 pair sound a lot better? Also how do they stack up to Rode NT5s? I know a lot of people like the Oktavas but they are out of my price range. Thanks!
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I had a Pro 37 for about 10 years. Just sold it a few months ago. It's a really great mic for the money. Can't compare it to the 2020 as I've never owned one, but I did do a shootout on acoustic guitar between it and my 4033 once, and the 37 did surprisingly well! The 4033 won of course, but the 37 was good enough that I wouldn't have hesitated to use it. Should fair very well as an overhead mic for drums.
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I would recommend ditching the 2020 you have and buying a pair of something else.

I just sold my pro 37. Nice, but a bit too much 7k hype so I always found myself doing deep cuts around there (especially on cymbals). Pro37 impressed me the most on acoustic guitar...so-so on everything else (again, with too much 7k). The pro37 can take a lot of SPL and is very small and lightweight which are both cool qualities. It is also rolled-off pretty steep in the "air" frequencies (above 12k or so). That, with the big 7k boost provides a unique sound.

Are you recording the drums with just a few mics? Even a pair of sm58's will blow away those 2020's.

Maybe look at some cheap ribbons...those will sound better for the whole kit than cheap SDC's.
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The Pro 37s have been approved by Albini, thats a big cosign. But yeah maybe some ribbons would be nice if you want that type of sound.
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The 2020's make for great overheads in my experience. The PRO37 is definitely a very unique mic, but as mentioned already limited by it's unique frequency response (I wouldn't realistically ever reach for it for drum overhead duties), and it's also got a lot of self-noise.
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Nice Pat Metheny avatar. Ok good to know. I am really going for the Lo-Fi funk approach here. How were those drums recorded? I don't think they didn't use that many mics. not positive though

What is a ribbon mic that is versatile but not going to break the bank

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I've used 37's for OH's before. They did a pretty good job.
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...those old funk records ~ You could get away with one overhead and a kick mic for that sound (easy).

I have not used any cheap ribbons (only Coles/121/sf12). I have used the Coles the most (for 11 years)...LOVE it.

I think those Fatheads look really interesting (have not heard them myself), but in the price range...they should be checked out for sure. Even if you just get one/used.

I own a pair of beyer mc930's...these are really nice sdc's but I still would not use them for the sound you describe. Ribbons or Dynamics. I have an ev635a and that slays on drum room. Just that and a kick mic sounds really cool.
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wanna hear the ev635a? this is just one mic on the kit. I tracked this through an API and 1176 though (before hitting PTHD).
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I love the 635a on drums! Instant breakbeat vibe!
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wanna hear the ev635a? this is just one mic on the kit. I tracked this through an API and 1176 though (before hitting PTHD).
Turk, that sounds so sick. That's really what I am looking for. Thats a pretty cheap mic, too. How did you place the mic, and was that the only one? Also did you put any effects on it in the box? Thanks turk, that was just what I was looking for.
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Thanks! The studio I was using has a killer drum room...and the kit/drummer was very good. Your hearing just had that one mic...and maybe 6 feet out in front of the kit and about 3 feet off the floor aimed right at the drums. I used an API preamp and also did some light nuking on the way in through a vintage 1176. In the box I just did a quick bounce for you so I muted everything but this one mic and turned off the plugins. I put a tad of EQ on there (logic EQ) just to bring up the bottom a tad...and I pinch of 10k on top...a little limiting on the master fader to make this little sample mp3 "loud". That's it.

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I recommend you check out Sahiaman's Little Blondies as an inexpensive overhead. They are a tiny omni condenser and they sound great. I have a pair, and I used to have AKG c451b's, which after trying the Blondies, I sold. At the time the Little Blondies were less than 100 bucks each.
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Idk if i believe you lynrd. .. i wikk check them out. Thanks everyone

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wanna hear the ev635a? this is just one mic on the kit. I tracked this through an API and 1176 though (before hitting PTHD).
That sounds great! gotta get one of those bad boys.
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Definitely! The 635a should be in everyones mic locker! At under 100 bucks used you can't let those deals pass you up!
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Definitely! The 635a should be in everyones mic locker! At under 100 bucks used you can't let those deals pass you up!

$100? I got mine for $20 at Rogue Music NYC!
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That sounds great! gotta get one of those bad boys.
Thanks...yeah, love those mics. I dig them on guitar amps, aco guitar and vocals too.

ObiK...these mics are only $100 brand new.
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Yup thats why I said under 100. I got my pair for 97 and some odd cents shipped.
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you said for USED mics...not a good used price, but it's the usual street price for the mic new.
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wanna hear the ev635a? this is just one mic on the kit. I tracked this through an API and 1176 though (before hitting PTHD).
That sounds awesome. That mic is pretty much at the top of my list right now - I've heard a lot of great things about it and it's crazy cheap. Does it sound nice on an acoustic guitar by any chance (mine's pretty bright-sounding)?
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I like it on acoustic guitar for a certain sound...kind of lo-fi just a tad. Omni rocks cause you can put it really close to the guitar if you like.

The drum room, drummer and 1176 played a pretty big part of the sound on that little clip I posted. You won't get that sound w/out the room and good drums. Here is a pic of the room...there is carpet on the floor now. The room is studio 57 at the Music Lab, Elmo in Austin, TX by the way.
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Well, yeah, I realize that a nice space and nice instruments contribute a lot to nice sound, but the fact that a $100 dynamic can decently capture an entire drum set under any circumstances is pretty incredible, to me at least. Glad to hear it can sound good on acoustic. I like lo-fi, which is good because my budget and experience level don't allow for much else.

Austin, eh? I live there.
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Cool. If you live in town come say hello...I run FOH at Stubb's BBQ (I am there for most shows).

I am tempted now to grab another 635a, but I kind like it in mono for drum room. It sounds really cool on guitar amps as well. The built in HPF works well there.
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Someone posted about the Little Blondies a while back, I have looked up Sahiaman and have no way of finding this dude. I would be interested in hearing his prices. If anyone knows how to find him it would be very helpful thanks
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