Login / Register
 
$400 to spend on a pair of monitors
New Reply
Subscribe
Tonal-Retentive
Thread Starter
#1
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #1
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31

Thread Starter
Tonal-Retentive is offline
$400 to spend on a pair of monitors

Ok, I have a friend that wants a little setup for his house. He wants to spend $400 on a pair of speakers. The ones that come to mind are KRK, Yorkville, maybe Wharfedale. Whats the popular choice around here? Any good places online to buy from?

p.s. He will do rock and probably a little r&b on them. I will probably use them too b/c we write together sometimes.
#2
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #2
Moderator
 
DrDeltaM's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,464

DrDeltaM is offline
KRK is pretty good for the money, I've no personal experience with the others you list.
__________________
Mathijs Indesteege aka Mathew Lane
mastering - plugins
http://www.mathewlane.com

DrMS. Focus on your stereo field. - NEW AAX Native 64 v4.0.1 OUT NOW!
DrMS spatial processor - native AAX64/RTAS/AU/VST plugin »

Product Support Engineer for
Joystick Audio - Benelux High End Distributor
http://www.joystick.be
#3
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #3
Lives for gear
 
kingofswing's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 1,396

kingofswing is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonal-Retentive
Ok, I have a friend that wants a little setup for his house. He wants to spend $400 on a pair of speakers. The ones that come to mind are KRK, Yorkville, maybe Wharfedale. Whats the popular choice around here? Any good places online to buy from?

p.s. He will do rock and probably a little r&b on them. I will probably use them too b/c we write together sometimes.

For $400, the KRK Rockit range are great performers, the rp6 or rp8.

Also look at the Event TR6 / TR8.

Alesis M1 Mk2 Actives are great, and have a well balanced sound from low to high. I have a pair, and IMO the are not far off from much higher end models costing 3-4 times more.
#4
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #4
Lives for gear
 
mrbowes's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,452

mrbowes is offline
KRK V6 (used) and M-audio BX8s are both great for the money. Don't discredit passive monitors - A pair of used KRK 6000's (which are some high quality monitors) recently sold on eBizzle for less than $200!
Tonal-Retentive
Thread Starter
#5
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #5
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31

Thread Starter
Tonal-Retentive is offline
Ok, but how do you buy used monitors? I've always been paranoid about doing that.
Tonal-Retentive
Thread Starter
#6
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #6
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31

Thread Starter
Tonal-Retentive is offline
I've heard the Samson resolv stuff is supposed to be really good for the price too.
#7
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #7
Jai guru deva om
 
warhead's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 13,979

warhead is offline
We have the Yorkville, Wharfedale and KRK RP and V series stuff all lined up side by side...and the RP series stuff is what makes it out the door and doesn't come back for folks on a budget.

Yorkville is "ok", somewhat cloudy while the Wharfedale stuff is kind of dark and opens up a bit when you crank it...but the KRK RP stuff has a smoother overall sound from low to high volume compared to other budget lines.

So that is our experience with those 3 lines on a daily basis.

War
__________________
Warren Dent, Owner - ZenPro Audio: Gear Now & Zen

Tonal-Retentive
Thread Starter
#8
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #8
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31

Thread Starter
Tonal-Retentive is offline
Would it make a big difference to go for the RP8 over the 6? Not had much experience with 6" drivers...
#9
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #9
Jai guru deva om
 
warhead's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 13,979

warhead is offline
More midrange clarity, less low end and volume. The 6" just aren't going to move as much air. While the RP6 sound fine, we've noticed that they tend to make kick drums sort of all sound the same on lots of source material. All speakers are flawed, especially in this price range. That may be something you don't want to hear, but it's just the truth.

Even the expensive ones are going to be flawed in some way though, to quote a friend of mine: "speakers SUCK".

Bang for the buck the RP series is killer, I really like those RP5's for the $$$.

War
Tonal-Retentive
Thread Starter
#10
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #10
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31

Thread Starter
Tonal-Retentive is offline
So with rock/pop sources, which ones would you go with? RP5,6,8?
#11
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #11
Gear interested
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4

slh0dges02@hotm is offline
i have a pair of event tr-6's that i picked up for $400 that work pretty well. only problem is that you will probably not hear the low-end as well as you want... meaning you might overcompensate for the lack of it.
#12
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #12
Lives for gear
 
kingofswing's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 1,396

kingofswing is offline
#13
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #13
Lives for gear
 
gsilbers's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora La Reina de Los Angeles de Porciuncula
Posts: 3,864

gsilbers is offline
try the m audio bx5 or other m audio monitors. they are really and unexpetly amazing.
the bass is enourmous and the stereo field is good. of course i dont recomend them for
a studio or main monitors but for that price theyre really good. i have genelecs for that.
if u decide for maudio get a good look at return policy and warranty cause there is a lot fo their gear which brakes easily but other times its just last for a long while.

ps i had the krks v and i didnt like them as much as the maudio.
krk are good when u go over 1000, really good!
#14
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #14
Lives for gear
 
AdamJay's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 2,826

AdamJay is offline
if you dont have a CRT monitor or TV's around...
Tannoy Proto J's They are unshielded but have to be the flattest, least fatiguing passive monitors i've heard south of $600/pair. More honest than Reveal Passives.
These things are basically my preference for NS-10's.

Add a Samson Servo 260 amp and that sould keep you under budget. Pushing 90w per side into the Proto J's And thats a solid, quiet, fanless amplifier.

I've had the same pair for 6 years and never an issue.
I've always stayed the hell away from powered monitors, keep that PSU away from my cones, bitches!!!
#15
9th February 2006
Old 9th February 2006
  #15
Lives for gear
 
kingofswing's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 1,396

kingofswing is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJay

I've always stayed the hell away from powered monitors, keep that PSU away from my cones, bitches!!!

Strange.

The best mastering studios in the world use actives or powered monitors.

Im pretty sure Metropolis Mastering, UK use PMC BB5XBD Active Stereo mains, in each of their mastering suites.

each to thier own.
#16
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #16
Gear maniac
 
supaheef's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: In a small box full of flashing lights - Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 277

supaheef is offline
Now they won't suit everybody, as they need to be used close, and at a carefully judges width, but I am quite impressed with the Genelec 8020s's (about $385 for a pair). They are quite revealing on the mid-range (their definite strength) with a surprisingly solid and reliable low end. Genelecs do have 'their' sound, which is not for all. I have tested the 8020, 8030, and 8040 side by side, and they sound (apart from the extreme lows) extremely similar. The trick with the 8020's is to run the amps (knobs on the front) fairly low (around halfway) then drive them with a healthy line source. With the volumes on the speakers up, they lose a lot of headroom. Driven hard, with low gain, they have excellent transient response.

All above props should be followed by the phrase "for their size". Well worth a listen, if nothing else. Depending on your fuel of choice, YMMV.

sh.
#17
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #17
Jai guru deva om
 
warhead's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 13,979

warhead is offline
Supaheef, the 8020 Genelecs are more like $385 each. If they were $385 a pair KRK would be out of business!

It is amazing how consistent those 8000 series speakers are as you move up the line, you typically gain another 10hz of reach on the low end and another 7 to 10db overall volume but the sound is very much the same through the mids and high end.

War
#18
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #18
Lives for gear
 
rids's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: The Sun's Synth
Posts: 2,818

rids is offline
Behringer Truths can be had for cheap on ebay, around 300. Good sound and they do tell the truth.
#19
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #19
Gear Head
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Tampa
Posts: 49

Send a message via AIM to Fast420A
Fast420A is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by supaheef
Now they won't suit everybody, as they need to be used close, and at a carefully judges width, but I am quite impressed with the Genelec 8020s's (about $385 for a pair).
$770 a pair and in stock ready to ship, call if you need them.

Seriously though, if he needs a good main monitor he should be looking for something in a 6 or 8 inch woofer so the bass response is decent enough to hear and mix correctly. The other option would be to get a 2.1 system with a sub.

I would definately be looking at the Event TR6 for $399, the Samson Resolv come in a 2.1 system for $399 with an 8 inch Sub and 5 inch mains, you can get the 8 inch Mains for $399 or the 6 inch mains for $299. If your friend can spend $100 more the Blue Sky Media Desk wouldn't be a bad idea.
__________________
Kyle Redding, Social Media for SamAsh.Com
#20
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #20
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,123

ozraves is offline
#21
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #21
Lives for gear
 
copperx's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Ciudad Juarez, Mexico
Posts: 530

Send a message via MSN to copperx
copperx is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozraves
Hafler no longer makes power amps.
There's always the T-Amp for those on a budget (you need efficient speakers, though).
__________________
Gearslutz.com: 'cuz it sucks to know that the gear isn't the problem ...

"Do everything else right, and the equipment will disappear in insignificance." - Steve Albini

"Photographers — idiots, of which there are so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. - Andreas Feininger
#22
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #22
Gear interested
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1

b2001 is offline
Quote:
We have the Yorkville, Wharfedale and KRK RP and V series stuff all lined up side by side...and the RP series stuff is what makes it out the door and doesn't come back for folks on a budget.
Warren:

I'm finally getting close to being able to afford and get a pair of monitors. I know listening is the final test; I've been thinking its either the RP5's or the V4 II's for me. I'm sure many end up with the RP5's vs. the V4's because of the price difference.

Are the V4's better enough than the RP5's to justify the cost difference? I'll spend the extra money, if need be. However, if not, then I have plenty of others things on my wish list. I want to stick with smaller speakers because of the small room that I'm in - I'll add a sub later. If I end up with the RP5's, then I'm well on the way to the sub already ...
#23
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #23
Jai guru deva om
 
warhead's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 13,979

warhead is offline
The V4's are different, they have a little less low end response than the RP5 but they have somewhat more mid-clarity than the RP5 also and a smoother more detailed top end response.

If money's not a huge object, the Genelec 8030's are a LOT of speaker coming in a small package.

War
#24
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #24
Gear maniac
 
supaheef's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: In a small box full of flashing lights - Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 277

supaheef is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by warhead
Supaheef, the 8020 Genelecs are more like $385 each. If they were $385 a pair KRK would be out of business!

War
Whoa! Sorry War! Still thinking in UK pounds! They can be had for under £400 in my store in London...

My bad... tee hee. Good speakers though. I have avoided about an hour of work today testing rough mixes through them. It won't be long until a pair comes home with me!

sh.

PS: Did someone seriously mention Behringer Truths? Yikes!
#25
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #25
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 30

Elijah is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by rids
Behringer Truths can be had for cheap on ebay, around 300. Good sound and they do tell the truth.
Absolutely not. I've used these a lot at church (closed-circuit TV mix), and trust me, you will want to throw them out the window sooner or later.
#26
10th February 2006
Old 10th February 2006
  #26
Lives for gear
 
matucha's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Posts: 3,464

matucha is offline
What about a new yamaha white cone series... I'm going to try a pair of HS50M for my temporary suite at barcelona, I'm used to adam s3a at prague, so this will be quite an interesting expirience.
#27
11th February 2006
Old 11th February 2006
  #27
Gear nut
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 79

brokemusician4 is offline
All I can say is that to say the KRK RP stuff is in the same league as the Yorkville is a joke. Remember dealers often find speakers with higher profit margins more musically pleasing. Definitely go with the M-audio's before the KRK's, the only KRK's I've ever heard that belonged in the studio were a pair of $5000 dollar KRK's. That company sells crappy sounding speakers that look cool and they're geniously marketed and since most people can't hear anything anyway somehow they're still in buisness.
#28
11th February 2006
Old 11th February 2006
  #28
Lives for gear
 
blaugruen7's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: berlin
Posts: 1,888

Send a message via AIM to blaugruen7
blaugruen7 is offline
samson rubicon r6a
#29
11th February 2006
Old 11th February 2006
  #29
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,052

Eric Greedy is offline
I'm with the Genelec 820 tip...but even more bang for the buck. Because they're a lot cheaper and mixes still translate amazingly well are the new Yamaha HS50M's you can get a pair on a good deal for your target price. They go down to around 50Hz..crazy.
AxS
#30
11th February 2006
Old 11th February 2006
  #30
AxS
Gear interested
 
AxS's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: London, England
Posts: 7

AxS is offline
Do try and audition some Event monitors, the TR6 are a great price/performance tradeoff. I'd certainly take them over Warfedales or Behringers.
The V2 KRKs are also good as are the Genelec 8020A but they may be over your budget.
New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn  Submit Thread to Google+ Google+ 
 
Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter / Forum
Replies
Caldo71 / Gearslutz Secondhand Gear Classifieds
5
Alexi / Low End Theory
3
Nevelicious / So much gear, so little time!
10
Jules / Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording
38

Forum Jump

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.