Bus Send Level (dB) and Bus Track Level (dB)

[EDF]

Long story short, which is more important, for instance, I have a bus track I usually keep it at unity* (0).

I usually throw the send on and out of instinct is put it on about 4 or at 0.

Now for instance, lets say I have EQ, compression, on a bus track, how do I change how effective or how wet the EQ or compression will be on the audio track, do I mess with the bus send level or the audio track dedicated to the bus with the plugins?

Not sure where to start but I have an idea on where to go, just looking for clarification.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by EDF

Long story short, which is more important, for instance, I have a bus track I usually keep it at unison (0).

I usually throw the send on and out of instinct is put it on about 4 or at 0.

Now for instance, lets say I have EQ, compression, on a bus track, how do I change how effective or how wet the EQ or compression will be on the audio track, do I mess with the bus send level or the audio track dedicated to the bus with the plugins?

Not sure where to start but I have an idea on where to go, just looking for clarification.

Unison?! You mean unity....unison means the same note, unity means no gain (ie you're not turning anything up or down).

your question is a little unclear. Until you REALLY know what you're doing, keep FX like reverb and delay on aux channels (and set 100% wet) and use post fade sends to route to them, and processing like compression and EQ on inserts.

then the question above will have no meaning. you want reverb on your voice? set up a send to a reverb, and increase the level of the send till you have enough reverb, doesn't matter what the level is. You want to compress your vocal? put a compressor on the insert. Then your compressed vocal is now getting reverb. Need a louder vocal? turn it up - the post fade send follows the main level and the reverb also increases.

If none of that makes sense, it's time to learn some engineering basics, and a good book will help you more than any number of forum posts.

[EDF]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

Unison?! You mean unity....unison means the same note, unity means no gain (ie you're not turning anything up or down).

your question is a little unclear. Until you REALLY know what you're doing, keep FX like reverb and delay on aux channels (and set 100% wet) and use post fade sends to route to them, and processing like compression and EQ on inserts.

then the question above will have no meaning. you want reverb on your voice? set up a send to a reverb, and increase the level of the send till you have enough reverb, doesn't matter what the level is. You want to compress your vocal? put a compressor on the insert. Then your compressed vocal is now getting reverb. Need a louder vocal? turn it up - the post fade send follows the main level and the reverb also increases.

If none of that makes sense, it's time to learn some engineering basics, and a good book will help you more than any number of forum posts.

It all made sense and I appreciate the time and approach you took. I had the understanding of what I was doing and how I was doing but I needed someone else to put it in proper terms for me. I was basically having issues on what to put on the sends and what I should throw on the inserts.

Unity*

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by EDF

It all made sense and I appreciate the time and approach you took. I had the understanding of what I was doing and how I was doing but I needed someone else to put it in proper terms for me. I was basically having issues on what to put on the sends and what I should throw on the inserts.

Unity*

Great - have fun with it!

[Bill@WelcomeHome]

Originally Posted by EDF

Now for instance, lets say I have EQ, compression, on a bus track, how do I change how effective or how wet the EQ or compression will be ....

On a -bus track- insert, EQ and comp are 100%, anything that is inserted is 100% on unless it has a mix control. Levels should be at unity through the chain, and the makeup or output gain on the eq or comp is used to keep things where they belong between pieces of gear or plug ins in the chain. Unless your use of the term 'bus track' is specific to some software or another that uses a different convention. Typically, a number of channels or tracks on which we wish to work in concert will be grouped to a bus... like Drum Bus; or the stereo output, often called the 2 Bus around here.

[EDF]

Thanks Psyco and Bill, I was actually able to remix a few things I had did using flawed logic. A great improvement.