Spot the weakest link... in my recording chain?? Great example in here..

Mitch Lowen · 1st February 2006

I use a PC

Pentium III 667Mhz
2 x 20Gb Harddisks

I record into

Logic Audio Gold 4.1 (retail)

Vocals

Joemeek JM-47 mic
Joemeek VC3 v2 pre-amp

Through an analog cable from the pre-amp into the L input of my soundcard

Audiowerk 8 card

Midi:

E-mu Proteus2000 incl. Phatt Board (Turbo Phatt synth)
Roland JV2080
Akai S950

Everything goes back to my old trusted Yamaha MC1602 mixer.

The audio -> 2 tracks
All synths -> 2 tracks each
S950 -> 5 tracks

A song recorded and mixed like this:

Davey G - Break It Down

Besides fixing the acoustics problems in my room I want to start tracking all my sounds into Logic and mixing everything in the box <term I just learned haha>

One thing: a friend uses Creamware and is going crazy over how thin certain properly sounds end up sounding in Logic. He says 'Eventhough ur mixer is old etc. it gives a lot of bottom to your music..' He suggests I track from the mixer's XLR outs straight into the soundcard.

I wonder: what's the weakest link (besides me! think lack of proper acoustics and really good engineering skills).

Thanx

Oh.. and I have this TL-Audio C-5021 I never touch.. because plug-ins might probably be better (I got Waves + TC Electronic plug-ins).

So much advice to give now huh... be brutal

JonCraig · 2nd February 2006

here's how it should always work (although some will dispute the order of certain things...):

get good monitors.
fix control room acoustics (the right way... not just slapping up some auralex)
get good mics.
fix tracking room acoustics (again... the right way)
get good pres
get good converters (D/A for monitoring chain *first*, then A/D)
get good outboard compressors, eq's, whatever.

--jon

s-boogie · 2nd February 2006

i guess this is the thread were all the posts disappear all over sudden...

i posted this morning!then there was maintainance and my posts just

then there was another slut posting here and it also is gone now.

there is something mysterious about you mitch lowen

ok...shortform again:

you want to record from akai/synth/board/whatever inside the box!!!

2x20 gig are not enough space for serious recordings
get rid of the audiowerk!!!
get a new pc with at least 1 gig ram / 2 ghZ pIV / athlon whatever
choose a pci or usb audio interface...motu 2408 or some like that
get a used one...they are rugged.
(this is a low budget proposal)
treat your room!
kill that samson.
the audiowerk is just another reason you don´t like your dynaudios....
good luck!

1st February 2006	#1
Mitch Lowen Gear nut Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 138 Thread Starter	Spot the weakest link... in my recording chain?? Great example in here.. I use a PC Pentium III 667Mhz 2 x 20Gb Harddisks I record into Logic Audio Gold 4.1 (retail) Vocals Joemeek JM-47 mic Joemeek VC3 v2 pre-amp Through an analog cable from the pre-amp into the L input of my soundcard Audiowerk 8 card Midi: E-mu Proteus2000 incl. Phatt Board (Turbo Phatt synth) Roland JV2080 Akai S950 Everything goes back to my old trusted Yamaha MC1602 mixer. The audio -> 2 tracks All synths -> 2 tracks each S950 -> 5 tracks A song recorded and mixed like this: Davey G - Break It Down Besides fixing the acoustics problems in my room I want to start tracking all my sounds into Logic and mixing everything in the box <term I just learned haha> One thing: a friend uses Creamware and is going crazy over how thin certain properly sounds end up sounding in Logic. He says 'Eventhough ur mixer is old etc. it gives a lot of bottom to your music..' He suggests I track from the mixer's XLR outs straight into the soundcard. I wonder: what's the weakest link (besides me! think lack of proper acoustics and really good engineering skills). Thanx Oh.. and I have this TL-Audio C-5021 I never touch.. because plug-ins might probably be better (I got Waves + TC Electronic plug-ins). So much advice to give now huh... be brutal __________________ Mitch Lowen DAVEYG.NL

2nd February 2006	#2
JonCraig Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,800	here's how it should always work (although some will dispute the order of certain things...): get good monitors. fix control room acoustics (the right way... not just slapping up some auralex) get good mics. fix tracking room acoustics (again... the right way) get good pres get good converters (D/A for monitoring chain first, then A/D) get good outboard compressors, eq's, whatever. --jon __________________ "My job is to make music sound great and to not whine too much." --George Massenburg Learn PT Techniques from Multi-Platinum Engineers. Click Here.

2nd February 2006	#3
s-boogie Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2005 Location: germany Posts: 195	i guess this is the thread were all the posts disappear all over sudden... i posted this morning!then there was maintainance and my posts just then there was another slut posting here and it also is gone now. there is something mysterious about you mitch lowen ok...shortform again: you want to record from akai/synth/board/whatever inside the box!!! 2x20 gig are not enough space for serious recordings get rid of the audiowerk!!! get a new pc with at least 1 gig ram / 2 ghZ pIV / athlon whatever choose a pci or usb audio interface...motu 2408 or some like that get a used one...they are rugged. (this is a low budget proposal) treat your room! kill that samson. the audiowerk is just another reason you don´t like your dynaudios.... good luck! __________________ _______________________________________ "...work through a room's gear — I'd sit there with the gear for hours. I think that helped me become a mixer, and to be able to come up with things that were creative and new." -maserati thumbsup _______________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/sashliq

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