Alternatives to Behringer ADA8000 for 8xADAT-Lineout conversion (auto-mute problem)?

[colonel_claypoo]

wow didn't even know that but am/was about to buy an ADA8000.
now this got me thinking.

[RiF]

This bug seems to be not very known because most people seem to use it for additional INPUTs and not OUTPUTs (where the problem is apparent). But it's confirmed by Behringer.

[Chrisc_o]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I had never heard of it before.


Cheers.thumbsup

[jezburns]

*bump*

Facing the same problem. Audio quality of the ADA8000 seems fine (used them before) but the mute-delay problem is putting me off getting one for outboard inserts. Anyone recommend any other similar budget 8 channel ADDA converters (without pres preferably)? Doesn't seem to be much, if anything, between the £150 Behringer and £1100 RME range. Annoying.

[Torea]

Originally Posted by RiF

I purchased a Behringer ADA8000 to get a total of 16 analog outs from my Digi 002R to go into my analog mixing console. But unfortunately, my unit has been built after 09/2009 and has this frakking auto-mute "feature" that renders it completely useless for me.
- Does anybody has a fix for that (other than putting Waves plugins with Analog-Button on on each track to keep the ADA8000's converters from going into sleep-mode)?
- Does anybody know of alternatives to that unit, which do not cost me 4x more?

Thanx!

Can't you just put one extra channel with the test tone? Set it up and forget about it?

Also, this just affects the outputs right? It doesn't put the inputs to sleep?

[TheDevilLokius]

ART Tubeopto 8. Gets you the 8 additional i/o plus 8 starved plate tube pres for a different variety. Costs less than $500.

-Chris

[microwave]

...or a secondhand Creamware A16 Ultra. 16 channels of i/o (you can only use 8 on the 002 but they're there for the future) and excellent for the money. I bought mine for 400 GBP. Also the original Focusrite Octopre and one of the current models are DA as well as AD, but you're paying an extra for the mic amps which you may not need.

[RiF]

Originally Posted by jezburns

*bump*

Facing the same problem. Audio quality of the ADA8000 seems fine (used them before) but the mute-delay problem is putting me off getting one for outboard inserts. Anyone recommend any other similar budget 8 channel ADDA converters (without pres preferably)? Doesn't seem to be much, if anything, between the £150 Behringer and £1100 RME range. Annoying.

I went for a *used* ADA8000. They don't have the mute prob and are even cheaper and work quite well (except for the one input channel that's causing some noise).

[RiF]

Originally Posted by TheDevilLokius

ART Tubeopto 8. Gets you the 8 additional i/o plus 8 starved plate tube pres for a different variety. Costs less than $500.

-Chris

Seems to be a nice unit, but it's EUR 700 in Germany. Which equals to $1000!

[RiF]

Originally Posted by Torea

Can't you just put one extra channel with the test tone? Set it up and forget about it?

The mute-problem is PER CHANNEL. Putting a test tone (or very very very low noise) onto a single channel just "solves" the problem on THAT channel.

Originally Posted by Torea

Also, this just affects the outputs right? It doesn't put the inputs to sleep?

Correct, just the outputs have this problem. That's why this bug is not very known. Most people seem to use it for extra inputs, which work fine.

[Torea]

Originally Posted by RiF

The mute-problem is PER CHANNEL. Putting a test tone (or very very very low noise) onto a single channel just "solves" the problem on THAT channel.


Correct, just the outputs have this problem. That's why this bug is not very known. Most people seem to use it for extra inputs, which work fine.

Ah cool, you answered my question and calmed my nerves about it (since I don't need the outputs right now)

[VigilantSound]

Originally Posted by microwave

...or a secondhand Creamware A16 Ultra. 16 channels of i/o (you can only use 8 on the 002 but they're there for the future) and excellent for the money. I bought mine for 400 GBP. Also the original Focusrite Octopre and one of the current models are DA as well as AD, but you're paying an extra for the mic amps which you may not need.

+1 for the creamware unit...

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[Stevil]

i have older ADA8000 units & dont have this problem.

as for alternatives:

the Creamware A16 Ultra unit is nice. any idea why the price nearly doubled when SonicCore took over manufacturing of it?

also the Aphex 141 8-Channel ADAT to Analog Converter goes for about $400
they also sell an A/D & bidirectional units but they seem to be getting harder to find.

Mackie & Presonus have ADAT compatible but i think theyre more expensive.

[Swami Digital]

It is quite annoying that there isn't a large middle ground there if you just want a pure converter box without preamps.

[Oli_W]

Could you put dither on every channel? would that sort it?

[idave]

Originally Posted by microwave

...or a secondhand Creamware A16 Ultra. 16 channels of i/o (you can only use 8 on the 002 but they're there for the future) and excellent for the money. I bought mine for 400 GBP. Also the original Focusrite Octopre and one of the current models are DA as well as AD, but you're paying an extra for the mic amps which you may not need.

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UPDATE!!
This is way too late I'm sure but just for the record the Octopre you refer to;-
A) has to have the Digital card which is an add on option
B) it's AD ONLY* it does not have a DA converter. It's purpose is to be able to transfer the (8) mic pre's into Adat Optical !!
Cheers!