Originally Posted by James Meeker
You do realize that every professional engineer in the world started out where you are? Somehow they managed to move on and up to better environments and equipment. Maybe you will too.
Either way, the approaches are universal. Not sure how your specific situation nullifies the general principles of drum recording. My examples are "perfect world" situations. If something sounds wrong chances are it deviates from the "perfect world" model outlined earlier. At least you know what needs improvement.
This should be the first rule of audio engineering:
"Hacks blame the gear. Professionals blame themselves."
Best of luck, sorry to offend you so greatly. Thicker skin may be required on your part, or deeper pockets. Or a new hobby. Don't know what to tell you. I can only relate my experiences and that involves real world situations of professional recording. I never liked the basement much, even when I was doing it.
Offense wasn't greatly taken. Thick skin = possessed. I'm just trying to raise awareness to other people recording in their basements that using drum samples is a legitimate practice due to budgetary reasons. It's like telling the guy who drives a stock Honda Civic that he sucks at racing because a Lamborghini owner did a faster 1/4 mile run. WTF?
OK, if we're talking perfect world situations that's fine. And the advice you offered that low end theory (the name of this forum) folks can use is great. I did compliment you on that. I just have a hard time selling authentic drum tracks vs. sampled ones. If I can offer clients a better sounding track with drum samples then f*ck it I am using drum samples.
The source is the most important part. Again I am recording musicians who don't even want to put new drum heads on. A cheap drum set with new heads would sound better. So instead of EQing the hell out of the crappy sounding heads which will get me 70% of the way to a great drum sound I can slap some samples on that are 95% or more with a well-tuned, more expensive recorded drum in a million dollar studio tracking room.
Before drum replacement/samples were introduced I would be bitched at because their drums didn't sound like Metallica's or Pearl Jam's or <insert big band who spent $100,000+ recording their album here>. Now...they can come much MUCH closer as long as they have good chops.
You have to blame the gear if it sounds like sh*t. Sorry! You cannot force someone to buy new drum heads.Or they "forget" to buy them/put them on.
Quote: "Hacks blame the gear. Professionals blame themselves."
If gear didn't matter then the studio listed on your profile (Lava Room Recording) wouldn't record with an SSL 4056 G+ console ($70,000+), a Pro Tools HD system, $1,000+ preamps, vintage compressors, Steinway piano, etc. etc. coupled with a big ass high ceiling. If you can't get a good sound out of that then yes it's time to blame yourself.
You can only squeeze so much quality out with recording engineer principles with low end theory gear. Like you said, you never liked the basement much. The basement is Low End Theory's domain.
Come to think of it, did your post that was copied/pasted on the first message even originate from this forum or another here on Gearslutz? If not then I apologize.
Thanks to modern day software I can get closer to that million dollar sound for a pittance. I'm not going to be working with major label artists but at least I won't have to mortgage the house. If only I could get those darn musicians to change their guitar strings, etc...LOL!