This is the first mix I've ever done on my own equipment. Vocals and acoustic were an AT4040 into a GAP Pre-73 and the on-board preamps on the Mbox 3 Pro. I mixed it ITB in Logic. My friend's singing here. Pretty simple arrangement, but I think it came together well.
This is the first mix I've ever done on my own equipment. Vocals and acoustic were an AT4040 into a GAP Pre-73 and the on-board preamps on the Mbox 3 Pro. I mixed it ITB in Logic. My friend's singing here. Pretty simple arrangement, but I think it came together well.
Vocal “arrangement" is very nice, I wanna say off the chart, but, the whole thing sounds good really. I think the recording quality could be better, the guitar sound bugs me a little, but, that’s all.
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I won't use pitch correcting software. I use "coaching" maybe you've heard of it. It keeps working even when you don't have it on.
Vocal “arrangement" is very nice, I wanna say off the chart, but, the whole thing sounds good really. I think the recording quality could be better, the guitar sound bugs me a little, but, that’s all.
Thanks! We worked pretty hard on the arrangement, I knew that the vocals were definitely going to be the strongest part of this song. If you don't mind, what about the acoustic sound do you not like? I had some trouble EQing it and trying to balance between too harsh and too dark. I think it may have had as much to do with the playing and the guitar as it did with the room and the equipment, but I'm looking to improve my mixing skills.
Thanks! We worked pretty hard on the arrangement, I knew that the vocals were definitely going to be the strongest part of this song. If you don't mind, what about the acoustic sound do you not like? I had some trouble EQing it and trying to balance between too harsh and too dark. I think it may have had as much to do with the playing and the guitar as it did with the room and the equipment, but I'm looking to improve my mixing skills.
It sounds like a signal chain choice to me. What were you using to record the guitar?
here is a band of horses cover i did with my g/f singing harmony. tracked the vox and gtr with AT4050 and mixed everything ITB PT9 thru a steinberg mr816
I tried to up the volume, but could not get it any louder than it is without losing too much detail. I used the limiter that comes with Logic express 9, don't know if that is any good or not, and don't have much experience with limiters anyhow, so I could be using it wrong. I would like to get it louder as I plan on using it on demo for my band, and maybe some of the people listening "need" the loudness to appreciate it. Not sure about that point though, there has been so much discussion about the "loudness wars" that I am of at least two minds about the subject.
Thanks for the listen.
Yeah the limiter is much like a compressor in that you have to make it breathe in time with the song. But if you're doing your own mastering in the box, you have to be careful of the digital overs that occur with limiting! And yeah the loudness war does not need anymore participants! So you're right not to push the limiter too hard. If it helps though, I sometimes use an ultra-maximizer from Waves to get a hot level without distortion, then a Brickwall Limiter at the end of the chain. But remember your level does not come form the limiter, this is simply there to protect the signal from distorting. You should use the compressors and maximisers to get the level up high without distorting hopefully. Then clip the output to -0.2 dB with a Brickwall limiter and that should do it. Great song though man.
Really clear, I am impressed with how well each part stands out. Did you have to use much eq on the individual tracks?
Ermm...I didn't use so much creative EQ, it was more about cutting and corrective EQ that gave room to each track. Well, I actually did a lot of frequency juggling to make each part stand out more. I think thats the key to a great mix, its getting each instrument out of the way of each other by using cut EQ rather than boosting. Also, I did use some boost EQ but I do all of the boosting after the compressor in the chain of each track, try this and you'll see that the space in the track really opens up, and certain instruments will stand out more according to how you use the EQ and comp. Or instead of boosting on each track, try only boosting the subgroups after the Comp, this works really well, but you only need a smudge of EQ at this stage. Thanks a lot btw for the comments.
Here is one from me!! In this video clip, the band is tracked live as you see in the video! I am using Phonic Helix 24mkII fw to HP laptop. Guitar Mics MXL 990s Drum Overheads Behringer c-2s Re20 on Kick Toms Crown GLM200 lavs HiHat ECM 8000 Snare SM57 Vocals SM58 Audio mixed on Samplitude Vedeo FX via Sony Vegas Over The Night FX test for Steel Tracks - YouTube
I recorded this EP with an ART Pro and Firestudio Project, using Logic Pro 9 and Waves v8.
Mic's used:
Beta 52(kick)
SM57's(toms, guitars)
MXL 990 (floor tom)
MXL 991 (OH's)
AT 2020 (room, vocals)
I think the EP turned out well considering the most expensive mic was the Beta52 for the kick!
Let me know what you guys think! I'm going to be upgrading mics soon, so suggestions would be great!
Vocal “arrangement" is very nice, I wanna say off the chart, but, the whole thing sounds good really. I think the recording quality could be better, the guitar sound bugs me a little, but, that’s all.
Great little recording and mix, if anything it needs widening and mastering to bring it up but other than this is a good first mix, one tip, try to separate the tracks more though with EQ, Comp and Verb. Great work overall. Well done man.
Great little recording and mix, if anything it needs widening and mastering to bring it up but other than this is a good first mix, one tip, try to separate the tracks more though with EQ, Comp and Verb. Great work overall. Well done man.
Thanks! I've been reworking it a bit and EQing the tracks some more and it's definitely sounding better.
this is the first release i've done with proper equipment (as in not just plugging straight into the computer and mixing on computer speakers. all those i classed as demos), it's also the first time i've made music like this and worked with samples so i'm hoping my next releases will sound better now i've worked out my system a bit.
Hey All, looking for general feedback on my mix. Its a 'milestone' in my experience as an audio engineer/trying to fake a recording studio using a local practice space. I've amassed a small arsenal of mediocre/entry level mics of nearly every type, audio interfaces, mic stands/cables.
The main piece that allowed me to multitrack the drums is the freakishly inexpensive Tascam us-1800. I also utilized our practice space's multiple rooms, using the more sound deadened one to track drums in, with the door cracked open, and used the bright outer room as a reverb tank for the room mic, positioned 8" above the concrete floor for a big room sound. Here's a rundown of the recording..
Shure Beta 52 - Kick (far inside the drum, aimed at beater point)
Audix i5 - Snare (aimed at the rim, 6 inches away, no bottom mic used)
EV PL 35 - Rack tom (mounted with drum clip)
Nady DM-70 - Floor tom (mounted with drum clip)
MXL 993 - Overhead (spaced pair, 3 feet in front of kit, 2 feet off ground)
MXL 993 - Overhead
Nady TCM 1100 - Room mic
MXL R144 - Guitars (on axis, 12" away from cab.. tried the i5 2 inches away pointed at the edge of the dustcap, at a slight angle, the 'traditional' method, and it sounded too fizzy.. its probably the amp, but either way those tracks got canned)
As far as mixing, no outboard gear was used (although I would love to have that option eventually, as money becomes less of an issue). I'm using Protools 9 on a windows 7, intel i5, 8gb ram, good amount of plugins.
Other than the usual stuff with compressors and high and low passing individual tracks, I am using parallel compression on a drum bus (thank god for automatic delay compensation) and a tape saturation plugin on the master bus that gained me a ton of volume and is probably causing some of the pumping (the mix is probably unnecessarily loud). One amp/cab was used for both guitars - VTM-120 into an avatar 4x12 with vintage 30s. Rhythm guitars are doubled, panned hard left and right, 'lead' (if you can call it that) and DI bass are panned center.. Drums are audience perspective..
Also, my training in audio engineering has been incremental from being in a band for 7 years, and most recently a 6 month program last year at Sheffield Institute for the Recording Arts in MD. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
By the way, in the past we've recorded with my dad, Bill Mueller, who is a 30+ year recording veteran..
Part of the reason why we're recording on our own, aside from me trying to become a freelance audio engineer, is that we've never been happy with the drum recordings done with my dad.. both on a performance level, and a mix/sound level. In a nutshell, our hope is that our drummer will crank out much more confident performances in the comfort of our practice space.. and that SEEMS to be holding true.
Here are a couple examples of past recordings done with my dad. (i don't have specs on mics used, as it was years ago.. and before I knew what to look for)
Hey All, looking for general feedback on my mix. Its a 'milestone' in my experience as an audio engineer/trying to fake a recording studio using a local practice space. I've amassed a small arsenal of mediocre/entry level mics of nearly every type, audio interfaces, mic stands/cables.
By the way, in the past we've recorded with my dad, Bill Mueller, who is a 30+ year recording veteran..
Part of the reason why we're recording on our own, aside from me trying to become a freelance audio engineer, is that we've never been happy with the drum recordings done with my dad.. both on a performance level, and a mix/sound level. In a nutshell, our hope is that our drummer will crank out much more confident performances in the comfort of our practice space.. and that SEEMS to be holding true.
Here are a couple examples of past recordings done with my dad.
Couple years ago:
I get it immediately.
More meat in the drums, and Your pops is mixing you like classic prog-rock and you’re way darker and more modern than that.
I like what you’ve done. It’s more appropriate.
Audio-Technica AT4040 at the 12th fret into a GAP Pre-73. So pretty standard low-end stuff.
OK. I would try a tube mic on the acoustic, even a low end one, smooths the highs and makes the mids more musical without EQ, then pull the highs back if it still needs it.
Here's a new tune recorded rather crappily by myself. There are a few obvious mistakes but it's just a rough demo. I used a Saffire 56 and a bunch of low end mics.
so good. how'd you get that freakin snare sound (with so little hi-hat)?
Just got the Apogee One, and I couldn't wait to try it out! So here's a pop rock song I recorded in a few hours. Guitar is plugged directly in to the One; used the software drumkit and bass included in Logic 9. Voice recorded with the One's internal mic.
so good. how'd you get that freakin snare sound (with so little hi-hat)?
Honestly, I have no idea. I think being a kind of hack who really doesn't know what he's doing kinda helped . I used a 57 on the snare but it sounded like ass so a lot of the snare is from the OH/room mics. I think I used a lot of parallel compression.
These demos were my first attempt at recording an entire band. Didn't really get anywhere close to where I wanted it to be, but I guess not too bad for a first attempt.
Honestly, I have no idea. I think being a kind of hack who really doesn't know what he's doing kinda helped . I used a 57 on the snare but it sounded like ass so a lot of the snare is from the OH/room mics. I think I used a lot of parallel compression.
These demos were my first attempt at recording an entire band. Didn't really get anywhere close to where I wanted it to be, but I guess not too bad for a first attempt.
yeah.. i wouldn't be so self-deprecating.. that mix is fresh. It sounds like you worked with a great drummer, with a great kit, in a live room.. maybe he even had a light touch with the cymbals/hi-hat (as really good session drummers do). I also listened to your other songs, and the mixes are all pretty consistent.. were they all recorded in the same session?
Did this one a few months ago, everything was recorded with a Saffire Pro 40, except vocals were run through a BLA b12a pre.
Kick was triggered with drumagog, just couldn't get a good sound. Bass was a 15 year old 5 string ibanez with 4 strings on it that were never changed, so I hate the bass on it, but whatever.
This is the last mix that I just completed on the band that I play in. I recorded this with my set up, which is in a garage. We are a Rock/Hard Rock band.
My setup is
Digi 002R
Lucid 88192
SCA (3)A12, (1)N72, and (4)T15's
Monitors are Yamaha HS80
If anyone is interested I can post what mics we used, and the types of instruments we used. Any suggestions or advice is very welcomed!!!
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