Vocal mic and vocal recording question

Peyton · 3rd December 2005

Whats a decent large diaphragm mic that i can get for around 200 or less used (ebay). And as for my second question, whats the best way to record gang vocals, all at once or each person have there own track?

warhead · 3rd December 2005

The best way to record a group of vocals depends.

Does it sound right for the track when all singers are being recorded at the same time? If so then record it as a group.

Does one of the singers suck? If so then record them separately so you can turn them down in the mix (or off).

Does it sound better to record each separate and have control in the mix for each? If so then separate it is.

The only way to know is to hear it within context of the mix. For instance your room may not sound real pleasant having to back a mic off enough to pick up a group of singers, so mic'ing each up close and blending might work.

Or vice versa.

For $200 there are some choices but just buying on eBay used may or may not be a good idea. If anything go to your local dealer and listen to the mics and pick a good all purpose one. It's hard buying mics over the internet without a return policy. A few decent ones to look at (if they're in good shape) are the AT3035, CAD M179, ADK Vienna or Hamburg, and the new Joemeek JM37DP which is way under budget new so if you can find it used on eBay might be a steal.

War

Peyton · 3rd December 2005

would you recommend thos mics over the Shure KSM27?

Groove Dog · 3rd December 2005

http://www.kelaudio.com./hm4.html

$199 new - great all purpose mic and very natural on vocals - not over hyped.

panda · 3rd December 2005

all at once, maybe 2 mics tops. unless you want some polished pop sound. then one at a time, all auto-tuned..

but 1 omni mic is the way i would go. everyone around it.

mic selection is all a matter of preference i think.

LDC's are overated imo.

panda

s.d.finley · 3rd December 2005

or use a figure 8 and to 2 people at a time, stack to taste....this works wit da omni too...

rock

sdf

panda · 4th December 2005

imo, it also depends alot on how big your "group" is. if its 4 people. probably doesnt matter to much. individual or all at once. but once you get into 8, 10 or more people. its like a loud amp. its just the amount of air being pushed. then all the people who are slightly off. you can record 20 people solo and mix them. but its just not going to sounds the same as 20 people singing at once. everyone at once is just gonna hit your brain [and everyone else's] right. solo's and mix just will never sound right.
some may say "artificial".
just make sure to put the worse singers in the back.

panda

3rd December 2005	#1
Peyton Gear nut Joined: May 2005 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 145 Thread Starter	Vocal mic and vocal recording question Whats a decent large diaphragm mic that i can get for around 200 or less used (ebay). And as for my second question, whats the best way to record gang vocals, all at once or each person have there own track?

3rd December 2005	#2
warhead Jai guru deva om Joined: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,253	The best way to record a group of vocals depends. Does it sound right for the track when all singers are being recorded at the same time? If so then record it as a group. Does one of the singers suck? If so then record them separately so you can turn them down in the mix (or off). Does it sound better to record each separate and have control in the mix for each? If so then separate it is. The only way to know is to hear it within context of the mix. For instance your room may not sound real pleasant having to back a mic off enough to pick up a group of singers, so mic'ing each up close and blending might work. Or vice versa. For $200 there are some choices but just buying on eBay used may or may not be a good idea. If anything go to your local dealer and listen to the mics and pick a good all purpose one. It's hard buying mics over the internet without a return policy. A few decent ones to look at (if they're in good shape) are the AT3035, CAD M179, ADK Vienna or Hamburg, and the new Joemeek JM37DP which is way under budget new so if you can find it used on eBay might be a steal. War __________________ Warren Dent, Owner - ZenPro Audio: Gear Now & Zen

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Groove Dog Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 163	http://www.kelaudio.com./hm4.html $199 new - great all purpose mic and very natural on vocals - not over hyped.

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panda Gear Head Joined: Sep 2005 Location: nyc Posts: 59	all at once, maybe 2 mics tops. unless you want some polished pop sound. then one at a time, all auto-tuned.. but 1 omni mic is the way i would go. everyone around it. mic selection is all a matter of preference i think. LDC's are overated imo. panda

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s.d.finley Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,714	or use a figure 8 and to 2 people at a time, stack to taste....this works wit da omni too... rock sdf

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panda Gear Head Joined: Sep 2005 Location: nyc Posts: 59	imo, it also depends alot on how big your "group" is. if its 4 people. probably doesnt matter to much. individual or all at once. but once you get into 8, 10 or more people. its like a loud amp. its just the amount of air being pushed. then all the people who are slightly off. you can record 20 people solo and mix them. but its just not going to sounds the same as 20 people singing at once. everyone at once is just gonna hit your brain [and everyone else's] right. solo's and mix just will never sound right. some may say "artificial". just make sure to put the worse singers in the back. panda