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Old 16th August 2012   #121
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I use:

Kick: D6 + Shure SM91
Snare Up: SM57 or i5
Snare down: i5 or Se electronics sE1a
Toms: D2 or e604
Floor tom: D4 or e604
HiHat: SM7b (sometimes sE1a)
OH: Beyerdynamic MC930
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Old 16th August 2012   #122
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my last live recording, I used the following and I was pretty happy considering it was live off the floor:

Kick - E602II
Snare - SM57
OHs' - AT2035 & AT3035
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I mix for a local live TV show. I am a mic minimalist. and the studio is small with crappy acoustics. Depending on the drummer, the style of music and the size of the kit it can be two overhead mics and kick. If I know brushes will be used on snare. I'll add a 4th mic.
Weapons of choice are a pair of KM-184s or a pair of Beta 57's for overhead, RE-20 for kick and if I need a snare mic, usually an SM-57, perhaps another 184 or a KSM-141.

I appreciate a good pro drummer who understands dynamics! That guy/gal could sound great with 1 mic.
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kick: Heil PR48
snare (if needed): Heil PR35
overheads: Heil PR30B (pair)
room (if needed/wanted): ribbon or condenser (models vary)
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I fell in love in Sennheiser MD441 on snare drum recently, AKG D19 on kick drum is my first choice (not always best, but first definitely), Beyerdynamic on floor tom is awesome too. I have few mic pairs (C451EB, C414B-ULS, Oktavamodded Rode NT2, AT4050, Josephson C42, Coles 4038, Beyerdynamic M160) that I can use on OH and it depends on instrument, but lately it's usually Rode on OHs and C414s in MS as FOK. Everything can change depending on what's needed, but this is pretty standard situation.
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Old 17th August 2012   #126
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usually doing 1 kick, snare top & btm, and 2 mono overheads

Kick Inside: Heil PR48
Kick Outside: cheap ribbon (PPA R-1 or Cascade Vin-Jet) about 4 inches back, angled 45 degrees down to where drum meets the floor -- doing this less and less these days

Snare top: Heil PR35 (or m201 if I had one) or EV 468 for a more dry sound
Snare bottom: SM57 or Heil PR22

OH1: Heil PR40 ... nice and crunchy
OH2: Cascade Victor (lundahl) or Cascade Vin-Jet (stock) -- both at drummer's forehead level, aimed at snare (helps with small crappy rooms)

Hi-hat: Beyerdynamic Opus 83 (SDC) very natural sounding

I mainly do mono. For stereo, I put a Cascade X-15 in place of the OH ribbon.
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Bass drum- in 421/re20/ATM25LE out AT4047 or Yamaha subkick

Snare top- beyer m201 with SM98 taped to it.
Snare bottom beyer 201 or Shure KSM 141

Toms- CAD M179

Hihat- km84i
Ride- km84i

Overheads- Peluso C12's or km84

Room- joly modded ribbons or beyer ms setup m160 with m130
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Old 3rd September 2012   #128
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Mics

Bass Drum - 1x Senheiser E602 (outside unported head)
Snare - 1x 57
Toms - 2x Studiospares S900 condensers
HiHat - 1x C1000S
Overheads - 2x Se2200A
Ambient Mic (25 feet away) - 1x JM47

Pres

2x Joe Meek Vc3q
2x Symetrix 302

Sound clip includes ambient mic switched in and out every few bars.
http://soundcloud.com/angliatv/drum-mix2
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Old 18th September 2012   #129
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I just wanted to update:

Beyer M88TG on kick
Beyer M201TG on snare drum
Heil PR30B pair setup Glyn Johns style as overheads
AT4033 FOK to add some clarity/upfront punch and room ambience
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Snare top- 57 (hopefully m201 or m80 soon)

Snare bottom- fathead

kick in- d112 or d6 (depending on style of music)

Frontofkick- Apex 460 (all i have at the moment)

Overheads- oktava mk012's (unmodded)

Hihat- c1000 (all i have at the moment)

Floortom- d6 or d112 (whichever i didnt use on kick)

Racktoms- 57's

No room mic because my room sounds like butt

Can anyone recommend a good hihat mic?
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Old 19th September 2012   #131
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Snare top- 57 (hopefully m201 or m80 soon)

Snare bottom- fathead

kick in- d112 or d6 (depending on style of music)

Frontofkick- Apex 460 (all i have at the moment)

Overheads- oktava mk012's (unmodded)

Hihat- c1000 (all i have at the moment)

Floortom- d6 or d112 (whichever i didnt use on kick)

Racktoms- 57's

No room mic because my room sounds like butt

Can anyone recommend a good hihat mic?
well get yourself that M201 for your snare and try the 57 on the hi hat, I always liked the sound that it gave it's not for everyone though
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Kick in: Heil PR22
Kick out: Heil PR48
Kick sub: Moon Mic
Snare Top: Heil PR22
Snare bottom: Heil PR20
Hihat Peluso CEM6
All toms: CAD M179
OH: Peluso CEM6
Room: LineAudio CM3
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Old 20th September 2012   #133
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Typically just one Sennheiser e906.

But then I never record full kits. What I usually do is record two toms, and then record a tambourine/rhythm egg/any other percussion I want with the same mic.

This is low end, isn't it?

I would however appreciate your input on this if anyone of you have any. Here's the deal:

The room isn't treated, and never will be, as my recording-area is a corner in my rather small living room. I have a LDC that I could use as an overhead, but that's about it.
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Old 21st September 2012   #134
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Audix i5 - Snare
SM57's - Toms, Ride, Hats
Beta 52 - Kick
Rode NT5's - Overheads
AT2020 - Room

The only things I'd replace are my overheads and the Beta 52. The overheads always sound nasty to me, I'm not a fan of the Rodes. The Beta 52 is okay, but it doesn't give a tight kick drum sound that I'm looking for, it's thumpy and I'm looking for more click.
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Old 22nd September 2012   #135
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Kick - Beta 52 or D6
Snare - SM57 or I5
Toms - SM57 or M179
Overheads - Oktava Modded 609s
Rooms - Oktava Modded 990

My next purchase is going to be a set of oktava modded MK-012 for overheads and the 609s' will go into spot mic usage when needed.
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The only things I'd replace are my overheads and the Beta 52. The overheads always sound nasty to me, I'm not a fan of the Rodes. The Beta 52 is okay, but it doesn't give a tight kick drum sound that I'm looking for, it's thumpy and I'm looking for more click.
The Audix D6 close to the beater will give you that. Also, look into the Beyer M201TG's as overheads, I went from a pair of NT1A's to those and couldn't be happier.

Here's an update what we ended up using for the album:

Kick Audix D6 a few inches from the beater + UKKO B-Band
Snare Audix i5 top SM7B bottom
Toms UKKO B-band
OH Beyerdynamic M201TG
Room t.bone RB500
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I use

Beta52 on kick, placed wherever Sounds best.

SM58s with grill removed on snare top

Misc dynamic on bottom

My buddies 57s on toms

Samson C02s overhead, normally spaced pair kept fairly low.

AT4040 room mic
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On the last two studio gigs I used an EV RE-10 as mono overhead and 414-buls as a close room. A beta-52 and sm57 for kik and snare for safety. Granted these two songs were going for a vintage vibe, but I'm pretty sold on less is more with drums on certain productions. It's easier to mix as well.
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Old 1st October 2012   #139
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Last drum session...

Kick D112
Snare top sm57
Snare bottom sm57
Rack Toms sm57
Floor Tom D112
Hi Hats akg 414
Overheads sm81
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K - D112
S top - 57
S bttm - 57
Toms - e604 or 441
HH - 81
OH - AEA R84's
Room - U87 & AEA 440

Thru API pre's
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Old 12th October 2012   #141
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For kick drum mics, there is an interesting survey here.... The Mighty Kick Drum Microphone: Part 2 - Audiofanzine
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Last demo/ jam session we used:

Kick. KELhm7u

Snare side. CADm179

Tom side. Oktava mk012

Soundcloud clip of the session below:

http://soundcloud.com/boschen/merry-go-round
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Lately it's:

Kick: D12
Floor tom: D12 from underneath
Rack toms: Senn 441 from underneath
Snare: sm57 or altec lipstick
hat/ride: chameleon ts-1's or a pair of altec lipsticks, in close

It's kind of the opposite from the prevailing trend of less mics and more distance but I'm going for a 70's sound yet more up to date and clean. Plus my drum room doesn't sound so great acoustically for loud drums, sounds good for quiet when the low mids aren't excited so much, so I try to minimize that room aspect and I've been spending a lot of time on tuning, that seems to help more than mic choice.
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Old 12th October 2012   #144
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x2 Kel HM-1's placed 'daptone style' close and almost under the kit
An SM7b on the Snare
And a home-made sub on the kick

Pretty simple setup, but it works.
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Overheads NT5's MP
Kick D112 or D6
Snare SM57 or i5
High Toms e604's
Low Toms MD421's or D6
HiHat Blue Baby Bottle
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Different records need different sounds. Here are the mics that I pick from, depending on the sound desired and method employed.

Kick:
Beta 91A
Beta 52
e602
SM7

Snare:
e609
SM57
SM81
Beta 57A
C414 XLII

Toms:
MD421
e609
C414 B-ULS
C414 XLII

OH's:
C414 XLII
SM80
SM81
4038

Hats:
SM7
SM81

Rooms:
SM80
Fathead
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Lightbulb Less talk, more squawk.

Actual sample...

Was recording on Wednesday with a lungcore band. Had a pair of fancy mics up on overheads and something was wrong. Swapped out the mics with Rode NT5s and BAM, everything is beautiful. This link will take you to right before the drums come in at 2:50: Jerseyband: Rise of the Meat Curtain - Jazz at the Atlas, DC - 2013 - YouTube

Or check out the entire video here:



No snare mic or tom mics by the way.
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Your recording with a pair of NT5's was helped by the drummer being pretty self-balanced and not a cymbal basher, don't you think?

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The last few times I've stripped down my set up. Recently I've done

Overheads- studio projects B1 pair (either xy about 2.5' over the snare, or "glyn john" style).
Kick- D112
Snare- Audix i5

I've also added a blumlein pair of Cascade Fatheads as room mics with that set up.

What I like about it is that in my room (wood floors!) the toms sound far better in the overheads than they do close mic'ed. I've just never gotten a convincing tom sound with close mics.

Here's a sample with the glyn john stereo pair, kick and snare mic'ed, and a pair of fatheads in the room
http://www.home.comcast.net/~tenchij...ecoldcrazy.mp3

And with the xy overheads, no room mics
www.home.comcast.net/~tenchijin/everyman.mp3
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