28th February 2010
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#1 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 111
Thread Starter | Need a USB interface with multiple outputs
I'm currently using an M-Audio Fast Track Pro but the 2nd input and corresponding outputs are blown - noisy. In addition the preamp isn't that great... I'm looking for a USB interface with an least 2 inputs and at least 4 outputs. I saw thread asking about the Focusrite USB, it seems nice but the USB 1.1 concerns me a little. It's layout however is pretty much what I'm looking for - 2 inputs, multiple outs, USB, Midi.
Is there anything that is similar but usb 2.0? I'm open to dishing out a little more money for something better.. I saw people suggest the E-MU 0404 but it doesn't have multiple outputs...
I'm using a Gateway NV59 with an Intel i5 processor, 4gb ram, Windows 7
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28th February 2010
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#2 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun
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Get a firewire card and look for what you want with firewire...
USB interfaces tend to have few channels. There have been a few high channels counts out there on USB, but they are new and look cheap (though they may be fine).
It's too bad nobody makes a converter for the Azalea interface on the "i" platforms. It has plenty of ability on the digital side...
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28th February 2010
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#3 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2010
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Thanks but I forgot to mentioned that I don't have a PCMCIA slot on my comp, just USB.
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28th February 2010
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Germany
Posts: 1,077
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Tascam US1642. Big (19") but affordable, 4 line outs + stereo S/PDIF. The preamps and drivers are alright too.
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28th February 2010
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#5 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 111
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What about an Mbox 2?
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28th February 2010
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#6 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Great Lakes, IL
Posts: 44
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Originally Posted by beedoola What about an Mbox 2? |
I would like to know that myself. Are there any inherent problems with these or a they rock solid pieces of equipment? I'm thinking about picking up a mbox2 mini... I only need one input for a mic.
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28th February 2010
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#7 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2010
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I know they supposedly work with Windows but I've always heard they're better with Macs...I'd like to know..
And I'm assuming the Mbox 2 is USB 2.0..?
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28th February 2010
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#8 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Germany
Posts: 1,077
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Originally Posted by beedoola I know they supposedly work with Windows but I've always heard they're better with Macs...I'd like to know..
And I'm assuming the Mbox 2 is USB 2.0..? | MBox 2 is USB1.1 (slightly better latency than USB 2) but it's enought for the number of channels it can do. Mine on Mac was pretty terrible, made my Mac occasionally crash in the middle of recording and always during shutdown; and by crash I mean this little screen: http://www.dashboardwidgets.com/show...Panic-1p0f.png
The sound quality is just ok and it works well with Protools, but that's it.
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28th February 2010
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#9 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 266
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Fireface UC!
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28th February 2010
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#10 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2010
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCrowbar MBox 2 is USB1.1 (slightly better latency than USB 2) but it's enought for the number of channels it can do. Mine on Mac was pretty terrible, made my Mac occasionally crash in the middle of recording and always during shutdown; and by crash I mean this little screen: http://www.dashboardwidgets.com/show...Panic-1p0f.png
The sound quality is just ok and it works well with Protools, but that's it. | Slightly better latency? Would it be worse since its 1.1?? Quote:
Originally Posted by micbrowser2010 Fireface UC! | I'm guessing thats firewire, I con't have a FW port..
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28th February 2010
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#11 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2010
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Originally Posted by beedoola I'm guessing thats firewire, I con't have a FW port.. | nope it's usb
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28th February 2010
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#12 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2008
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Focusrite Saffire 6 USB, 2 in 4 analog out. Saffire 6 USB Audio Interfaces
Lots of gain in the preamps and headphone-out.
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28th February 2010
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Salem, Oregon
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lexicon U42s - 4 channels. i thikn there is also an 8 channel version. good pres, stable, and USB2. works great for me.
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28th February 2010
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#14 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Germany
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Originally Posted by beedoola Slightly better latency? Would it be worse since its 1.1?? | Nope, USB 1.1 actually has lower latency but it has much less transfer speed than USB 2.x.
It's kinda like a high speed train versus a 6 lane highway. The high speed train can't transport a lot of passengers at the same time but will get there fast (low latency). The 6 lane highway has more throughput, but gets clogged up easily and sometimes there's even jams. USB2.x has a more loose protocol and the computer's operating system decides when the data should arrive and prioritize. The 480Mbps is a theoretical maximum that is never really achieved and much less sustained (unlike Firewire). Some data packets (a few milliseconds of audio) actually arrive very quickly but need to be buffered so that can be played back in the right order. If you've ever set your ASIO latency/buffer too low, you'll have notices clicks and pops; that's the packets not arriving in time or arriving in the wrong order.
USB 1.1 is used for most computer keyboards and mice for that reason: the latency is lower and especially the mouse feels more responsive.
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1st March 2010
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#15 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 111
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCrowbar Nope, USB 1.1 actually has lower latency but it has much less transfer speed than USB 2.x.
It's kinda like a high speed train versus a 6 lane highway. The high speed train can't transport a lot of passengers at the same time but will get there fast (low latency). The 6 lane highway has more throughput, but gets clogged up easily and sometimes there's even jams. USB2.x has a more loose protocol and the computer's operating system decides when the data should arrive and prioritize. The 480Mbps is a theoretical maximum that is never really achieved and much less sustained (unlike Firewire). Some data packets (a few milliseconds of audio) actually arrive very quickly but need to be buffered so that can be played back in the right order. If you've ever set your ASIO latency/buffer too low, you'll have notices clicks and pops; that's the packets not arriving in time or arriving in the wrong order.
USB 1.1 is used for most computer keyboards and mice for that reason: the latency is lower and especially the mouse feels more responsive. | great analogy, thanks a lot.
So we got votes for the Focusrite, Lexicon, Fireface UC,
Mbox2?
**Edit, I looked up the Fireface UC and saw that it was $1200, ha, thats out of the question...
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3rd March 2010
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#18 | | Gear interested
Joined: Mar 2010 Location: Cambridge, UK
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My band uses an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R - 8 ins, 8 outs, USB interface - but that's probably too much for what you want? It's a 1U rackmount.
It works well enough, and the effects are appreciated by our singer who likes to hear himself bathed in reverb.  We wanted enough inputs to record the whole band (and I wanted 8 inputs for digitising some old projects from 8 track tape), otherwise we may have gone for the plain Ultra.
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3rd March 2010
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#19 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Texas
Posts: 248
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Native Instruments Audio Kontrol works well for me. 2 in, 4 out.
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