GAP Pre 73 and SM7b vocal sample

[PEImatrix]

I'm still getting over a bad cold, but there seem to be a lot of folks wanting to hear a sample of this combination.

I tracked this in a very live room, and was right on the mic (using the flat settings).
There is no processing, no comp, no EQ. SM7b --> Pre 73 --> Delta 1010

EDIT: sample removed. People were giving me a hard time about it.

[badhorsie777]

Thanks a ton. I for one am VERY interested in this combo. I'll probably be picking these two pieces up later on this year (Just bought a Shure KSM32 and my 2nd BLA Auteur preamp.... gotta be able to justify the funds for a recording thing that's NOT my main job)

-Matt

[ether88]

gotta be able to justify the funds for a recording thing that's NOT my main job)

just spend the money and look at your pretty gear, bills can wait silly.

serious now, it sound nice, thanks for the upload. Wondering when people outside of GS will see that the GAP and SM7b are murderous together.

[Chrislpp]

You got the rest of the backing with it...... just because?

Like the song too nice singing

[Big_Bang]

No comp?

Nice mic work!

[PEImatrix]

Originally Posted by Big_Bang

No comp?

Nice mic work!

Thanks, but I was on the mic pretty much the whole time. Maybe someone who knows more can comment on this, but I find the SM7b almost seems to have an almost natural compression when you come onto it.

Sorry, there's no backing tracks guys. I just grabbed the mic, and sang a few phrases from a song I like. I hate putting up raw tracks, but figured that it might help people make some gear decisions. If anyone wants to give me some EQ tips that'd be cool too.

[Chrislpp]

Originally Posted by PEImatrix

If anyone wants to give me some EQ tips that'd be cool too.

No backing track with it so it doesn't really need EQ :P

[PEImatrix]

Originally Posted by Chrislpp

No backing track with it so it doesn't really need EQ :P

Smart ass! LOL

Okay, imagine it a rock mix without the scooped Mesa guitar sound. :P

[Chrislpp]

You got 99% of the cornell sound right there....all you need to do next is be cornell then maybe give a bit of presence....but its real hard to judge on fine tweaks when it's soloed.

for me anway

[PEImatrix]

Originally Posted by Chrislpp

You got 99% of the cornell sound right there....all you need to do next is be cornell then maybe give a bit of presence....but its real hard to judge on fine tweaks when it's soloed.

for me anway

Thanks man. I can hear a lot of mistakes when I listen back, but I'm still sick, and it was just 1 take after I sang it through a few times to set the gain.

BTW, the gain was set to 60.

[MC Blind]

Sounds good, I like it. I'm surprised that their isn't more bass/proximity effect if you where right up on the mic.

[Chrislpp]

Take it the lighter foam was on?

[bebopxx]

Originally Posted by PEImatrix

I'm still getting over a bad cold, but there seem to be a lot of folks wanting to hear a sample of this combination.

I tracked this in a very live room, and was right on the mic (using the flat settings).
There is no processing, no comp, no EQ. SM7b --> Pre 73 --> Delta 1010

EDIT: forgot to mention, I was using the mic as a handheld.

Sounds extremely D-essed or compressed, odd

I almost don't hear any sibilance (Ss' & Ts') at all

It wasn't D-essed or compressed?

[MC Blind]

I'm not trying to be a ****** or anything but there has obviously been some post processing done to this track. Auto tune for starters and I would guess also some hi-pass/lo cuts going on because of the lack of bass/proximity effect that I mentioned before.

I looped the section that sounds auto-tuned to me. I didn't do any processing and left the levels exactly the same. The only thing that I did was loop the section that sounded very auto-tuned to me.

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by bebopxx

Sounds extremely D-essed or compressed, odd

I almost don't hear any sibilance (Ss' & Ts') at all

It wasn't D-essed or compressed?

if you run the sm7b flat, there isn't a lot of sibilance. the sm7b is also pretty good at almost being naturally compressed sounding. not overly, but usually needs less than many of my other mics...and i have a few.

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by MC Blind

Sounds good, I like it. I'm surprised that their isn't more bass/proximity effect if you where right up on the mic.

keep in mind that the sm7b has a capsule that stays about an inch behind the grill. if you have the windscreen on it, this increases the distance from source to the capsule. also, keep in mind that the sm7b has a rumble filter on it as well. with this engaged, you will have less proximity effect and less build up on the bottom end.

MC Blind, do you happen to own an SM7B?

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by MC Blind

I'm not trying to be a ****** or anything but there has obviously been some post processing done to this track. Auto tune for starters and I would guess also some hi-pass/lo cuts going on because of the lack of bass/proximity effect that I mentioned before.

I looped the section that sounds auto-tuned to me. I didn't do any processing and left the levels exactly the same. The only thing that I did was loop the section that sounded very auto-tuned to me.

doesn't sound very autotuned to me. there are some rough spots in the track to lead me to believe that PEI's track is legit. owning and loving the SM7B, this track is VERY much what i am used to hearing with my SM7B into my chameleon labs and TNC pres.

[bebopxx]

Originally Posted by MC Blind

I'm not trying to be a ****** or anything but there has obviously been some post processing done to this track. Auto tune for starters and I would guess also some hi-pass/lo cuts going on because of the lack of bass/proximity effect that I mentioned before.

I looped the section that sounds auto-tuned to me. I didn't do any processing and left the levels exactly the same. The only thing that I did was loop the section that sounded very auto-tuned to me.

The ole high fifth artifact creeping in

[MC Blind]

Originally Posted by rty5150

keep in mind that the sm7b has a capsule that stays about an inch behind the grill. if you have the windscreen on it, this increases the distance from source to the capsule. also, keep in mind that the sm7b has a rumble filter on it as well. with this engaged, you will have less proximity effect and less build up on the bottom end.

MC Blind, do you happen to own an SM7B?

Yes, I own both the original SM7 and the newer SM7B, (I prefer the sound of the original by the way). Of course I know all of this. The SM7 does have a proximity effect which is apparent to anyone that has used it, many djs for decades now have taken advantage of this fact. Sorry if you can't hear it but this track sounds like it has been processed itb after the fact. I'm just trying to keep things real since the original poster claimed that there was no processing involved, carry on.

[rty5150]

no sweat. i just did some listening to my sm7b track and PEI's again and still stand by what i said earlier. my tracks are typically processed a bit more on the way in with a low cut on either my CL 7602 or on my toft atc-2 neiter set over 80hz(the toft is fixed at 50z); and compressed with the toft for some GR to control the peaks at the most 3:1. i actually heard quite a bit of boominess on certain phrases from the OP's clip. the top end may have been attenuated with the use of the windscreen as well. i personally don't use them and set my sm7b flat. with that setup i have a metal pop screen in front of it touching the grill. listening to my tracks with a compressor and filter on the front sound way more polished than the track that PEI posted. i will say that he did give a solid performance and did show a great example of the SM7B with a chinese neve clone.

[PEImatrix]

Man I'm LMAO right now. There's no Autotune or Pitch correction... or EQ... or compression (I did mention that guys). In fact, I find the tuning all over the place, on a few notes.

I did use the lighter windscreen that comes with the mic.

[PEImatrix]

Again, neither the HPF or Presence switch on the mic was enabled.

For this type of track, what type of EQ'ing would you guys suggest? Should I just use a HPF of say 80hz (like a typical mixer HPF) or maybe a little higher? Also, for a Presence boost, what would you guys suggest?

Thanks

[minor_glitch]

I think we've stumbled upon a new illness!
PhATS (Phantom Auto-Tune Syndrome)

[Steab]

What's wrong with that guy , doesnt sound autotuned or processed at all to me, thx for the clip.

[kidvybes]

Originally Posted by minor_glitch

I think we've stumbled upon a new illness!
PhATS (Phantom Auto-Tune Syndrome)

...no joke!

[Tringboy]

ive had this happen to my own voice, on a M-Audio card, what Converters are you using? there can be strange artificial sounds with cheap converters on some phrases, you dont really hear it in the mix, but sometimes there is an electric sound that can happen to a vocal or piano i have found.

[PEImatrix]

Originally Posted by Tringboy

... what Converters are you using?

Delta 1010 rack

[PEImatrix]

BTW, this thread was never supposed to showcase my singing (if it was, I would have waited till I wasn't sick, and I would have made sure all the notes were perfect), it was just supposed to show what the GAP pre and SM7b sound like together.

Cheers everyone.

[MC Blind]

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[dysenterygary]

Originally Posted by MC Blind

I'm not trying to be a ****** or anything but there has obviously been some post processing done to this track. Auto tune for starters and I would guess also some hi-pass/lo cuts going on because of the lack of bass/proximity effect that I mentioned before.

I looped the section that sounds auto-tuned to me. I didn't do any processing and left the levels exactly the same. The only thing that I did was loop the section that sounded very auto-tuned to me.

Thats what happens when a singer goes from one note correctly up to a new note, and then again back to the original note, all in key. Its a rare occurrence in nature, and quite baffling the first time you hear it, as you now know.