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#1 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | What's the BEST reverb unit for the money?
Hi
I am wanting a reverb unit for use with analog recording.
I have looked at ALESIS quadraverb/Midiverb 1 11 111 1111/Microverb ect ect but have no idea what the main differences are between the units or if these are the ones I should be considering anyway. Is there something else on the market that I dont know of ???
I understand the Quadraverb can be edited to create "Shadows patches" But I would have no use for this
I just want something that can give nice clear "Honest" reverbs for subtle effects for a reasonable price
(I will add that whilst I am recording using analog equipment the more "Vintage" the reverb sound the better  )
I would really appreciate your views here
& I thank anyone in advance for any advice you can give me
Regards
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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That's a tough choice.
I mean, you've got all those Alesis models to choose from, or the ART units with the pink squiggles on the front, or the Peavey Somethingorother-Fex, "ect, ect, ect"... 1 11 111 1111...
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#3 | | Moderator
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The ensoniq dp4 or dp4+ aren't bad for cheap reverb. Plus they're four channels, so you can use two stereo reverbs (or other effects) per unit
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#4 | | Gear maniac
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I grabbed two of the Behringer V-verbs and I am very happy with them. I had no issues with the build quality or functionality of the units. It looks like it was discontinued, but if you can find one they are cheap. I bought both of my units for $69.99 each brand new.
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by mark.james I grabbed two of the Behringer V-verbs and I am very happy with them. I had no issues with the build quality or functionality of the units. It looks like it was discontinued, but if you can find one they are cheap. I bought both of my units for $69.99 each brand new.
Mark | Waht model # are yours..I ask because I see them all over for over $110.00, I hear the old ones are the good ones..so what # do we look for
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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(I will add that whilst I am recording using analog equipment the more "Vintage" the reverb sound the better )
| Used LXP1 is a nice Lex tone though a little limited in parameter programming. Watch for noisy pots..
How do these compare to newer entry level Lexies these days?
(Haven't looked' therefore the add on..
Just to add an opine. Skip Quadraverb, my reasoning- all the verbs in that box have a common envelope shape built into it. Lengthen, shorten, eq' r/t it, dress it up, this tempo trait remains IIRC. Internal timing' if you like to call it that is an important factor IMHO.
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Wayne Used LXP1 is a nice Lex tone though a little limited in parameter programming. Watch for noisy pots..
How do these compare to newer entry level Lexies these days?
(Haven't looked' therefore the add on.. | I like me lexicon ALEX..was pretty nice and has the old lexi chip in it!
Theres another lexi one like the Alex but I can not think of the name of it!
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6th January 2010
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#8 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by RTR Waht model # are yours..I ask because I see them all over for over $110.00, I hear the old ones are the good ones..so what # do we look for | I didn't know there were different model #s, I'll look when I get home.
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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I had an Alesis midiverb 4 at my disposal for a long time. Always did the job well for me.
But my thoughts on reverb are probably not conventional. I'm really not that picky about
it. I believe that the idea of reverb need only be suggested. The actual tonal quality of
it is not as crucial as most make it out to be. The difference between great reverb and
OK reverb is big, don't get me wrong... I just don't think that it makes that big of a
difference psychologically in a mix.
So I guess I don't need much from a reverb, usually.
But if you're looking for lush, rich, etc... yeah, midiverb probably isn't it.
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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How much do you want to spend? There are a lot of older verbs that were in the $1500 range when they were new that are now in the $200-$300 range that kill.
If you want newer for not much money, I would suggest a used TC Electronic M-one XL.
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#11 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash How much do you want to spend? There are a lot of older verbs that were in the $1500 range when they were new that are now in the $200-$300 range that kill.
If you want newer for not much money, I would suggest a used TC Electronic M-one XL. | Hi...just like to sart by saying thanks to everyone so far... I have a had a look through everything that has been mentioned researching them and seeing what price I can get each one for...I did though find it harder with the B-verbs though (Seems that many as with Alesis)
I must admit I quite like the sound of the "Lexicon" ones...
In response to the "Quote" above I had in mind spending no more than £150 in English money if I could
(Should have really included this in my origonal thread)]
Though what has happened in every other piece of equipment I have ever bought in the past "If there is something way way better for a bit extra" I woudnt mind adding to....!??
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#12 | | Gear nut
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I like my TC Electronic M-One XL. Nice reverbs with very nice smooth tails, very clean and noise free. You also get a dual effects engine which you can route to two different outputs (serial/parallel).
Care,
Mike
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#13 | | Banned
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Personally id look into a Lexicon LPX unit if you want something vibey and something like a Roland SRV330 for something a little more realistic. If you got both (neither are expensive) i think youd have two good units that would compliment each other quite well.. Say SRV330 for main reverb and the LPX for say vocals or drums etc.
If your a synth studio and do electronic id go for the Roland SRV330 as main reverb as i find it works better on many sources whereas the Lexicon usually doesnt always work on everything..
Didnt really like any of the TC reverbs i owned.
DP4 is a great unit, but not for reverbs.
I like the Midiverb 2 too has a good sound and is cheap. Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemeek1982 Hi...just like to sart by saying thanks to everyone so far... I have a had a look through everything that has been mentioned researching them and seeing what price I can get each one for...I did though find it harder with the B-verbs though (Seems that many as with Alesis)
I must admit I quite like the sound of the "Lexicon" ones...
In response to the "Quote" above I had in mind spending no more than £150 in English money if I could
(Should have really included this in my origonal thread)]
Though what has happened in every other piece of equipment I have ever bought in the past "If there is something way way better for a bit extra" I woudnt mind adding to....!?? | |
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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+1 for the V-verb. Its probably the best buy for the money since it even sounds better than the mx-series. Maybe a bit better than the MPX1.
I also like those roland SRV reverbs, verry nice musical lush sound.
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by RobJB06 Personally id look into a Lexicon LPX unit if you want something vibey and something like a Roland SRV330 for something a little more realistic. If you got both (neither are expensive) i think youd have two good units that would compliment each other quite well.. Say SRV330 for main reverb and the LPX for say vocals or drums etc.
If your a synth studio and do electronic id go for the Roland SRV330 as main reverb as i find it works better on many sources whereas the Lexicon usually doesnt always work on everything..
Didnt really like any of the TC reverbs i owned.
DP4 is a great unit, but not for reverbs.
I like the Midiverb 2 too has a good sound and is cheap. | Rob, I assume you are talking about the LXP1 or LXP5? (half rack units) Or maybe the MPX1?
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EMT 140 ...if you´re lucky you can get one for 900-1000,-
but boy, that reverb!!!!! |
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by RTR I like me lexicon ALEX..was pretty nice and has the old lexi chip in it!
Theres another lexi one like the Alex but I can not think of the name of it! | ReFlex. GREAT sounding units. The ReFlex has more adjustable parameters plus you can save settings. 128 memory locations.
These two were the best verbs i had back in the day. I loaned mine tio the club where I work, to go with their Alex. When they upgrade I'll get them back. Along with the LXP-1 they sound just great.
BUT my favorite low end unit is the Alesis Wedge. I have two of them too. Extremely configurable, small and handy. I keep one in a briefcase for gigs at unkown venues. The other is here in my studio!
I have a quaddraverb 4 I'll sell for $50.
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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In addition to the V-Verb, which I love, I have a Yamaha Rev-5 and a Kurzweil Rumour. Both are fantastic, both around $350 or so.
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Originally Posted by tomdarude EMT 140 ...if you´re lucky you can get one for 900-1000,-
but boy, that reverb!!!!!  | I think his limit is around $250 (150UK), so the EMT140 will be a bit out of his range I believe.
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by loujudson ..I have a quaddraverb 4 I'll sell for $50.
L | A '4? I remember the 'Q2 I tried out trying to sort this stuff out back when.
Bet you mean Midi' Verb. |
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#21 | | Gear nut
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I have three of the old, cheap Lex reverbs (LXP-1, Alex and Reflex) and like them all.
The Roland SRV-330 is rather lovely. With one of these and a Lexicon, you can cover quite a lot of ground, reverb-wise.
Apart from the Reflex, which I bought new, I didn't pay more than £75 for any of them. |
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Wayne A '4? I remember the 'Q2 I tried out trying to sort this stuff out back when.
Bet you mean Midi' Verb.  | Yeah, guess so. I never used any of those kind, it was given to me. Still available!
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by tomdarude EMT 140 ...if you´re lucky you can get one for 900-1000,-
but boy, that reverb!!!!!  | As beautiful as it is, several times, well enough times to mention say- I wish it could go shorter.
True emulation and all, actually I'd love to see UAD to open up a few of their plugs to extend past that.
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#24 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by RobJB06 DP4 is a great unit, but not for reverbs..... |
I gotta disagree with you RobJB06. The DP4 is awesome for reverbs. Very lush and musical to my ears anyway. With luck you can find one of these in your price range. Same goes for the Roland RV3030 too. Excellent for the money.
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#25 | | Gear maniac
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If you keep your eyes open you may be able to find a Lexicon PCM 70 in the ballpark of your price range.
I think that would be better than most of the other options mentioned, especially since you like Lexi verbs.
With Lexicon's release of the new PCM96 and native reverb software, prices on the old PCM70 and PCM90 verbs are way down.
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#27 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Jake If you keep your eyes open you may be able to find a Lexicon PCM 70 in the ballpark of your price range.
I think that would be better than most of the other options mentioned, especially since you like Lexi verbs.
With Lexicon's release of the new PCM96 and native reverb software, prices on the old PCM70 and PCM90 verbs are way down. | Let me know if you find one in the $250 range and I'll buy one. I have yet to see them that cheap. Maybe I should look again.
The Sony R-7 is a killer verb, I have one in my rack and it gets a lot of use. I think I got it for $250 or so. It was an expensive verb in it's day. I think it sold new for around $1600 or so if I am not mistaken. This is one of those verbs I was referring to earlier, expensive then... cheap now, still a lot of verb for the money.
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#28 | | Lives for gear
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Of hardware units currently for sale, if you are familiar with programming your own reverbs, I would suggest the Kurzweil Rumour.
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#29 | | Lives for gear
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The Kurzweil is nice.
But may you are also in the game to save some money I guess you work with a DAW...
Anyway I did some samples here for you and used the simple trick to modulate the re-verb return with a dimension D.
There is also a PDF in it where I wrote which sample contains which settings. You can hear thourgh the simple modulation trick how expensive the sound of the reverb gets.
I took the TC MC 30 Freverb Plug In and the Breverb to demonstrate that may a cheap hardware unit is not the best thing you can do...
Have FUN..... LINK |
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#30 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by loujudson ReFlex. GREAT sounding units. The ReFlex has more adjustable parameters plus you can save settings. 128 memory locations.
These two were the best verbs i had back in the day. I loaned mine tio the club where I work, to go with their Alex. When they upgrade I'll get them back. Along with the LXP-1 they sound just great.
BUT my favorite low end unit is the Alesis Wedge. I have two of them too. Extremely configurable, small and handy. I keep one in a briefcase for gigs at unkown venues. The other is here in my studio!
I have a quaddraverb 4 I'll sell for $50.
L | YUP..thats it...thank you..it was starting to drive me nut's
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