help find a good mic for r&b

[kac123ige]

im looking for a good mic that can give me a nice sound for R&B singing mainly
but some rapping also from other forums i was reccomended these mics

SE 2200A

SE 2200T

Rode NT1000

Rode NT2A

AKG C3000B

im not sure which one i should choose
please help me out lolz

[LeMauce]

Originally Posted by kac123ige

im looking for a good mic that can give me a nice sound for R&B singing mainly
but some rapping also from other forums i was reccomended these mics

SE 2200A

SE 2200T

Rode NT1000

Rode NT2A

AKG C3000B

im not sure which one i should choose
please help me out lolz

Get a sm7b / re20. All these mic's have same flaw for me when you use them for rap... sibilance after the 5Khz Freq region.

[kac123ige]

wait waht is this sibilince flaw?
im super duper new to recording and stuff im jus gettin started lolz
but i dont want the mic mainly for rapping i dont even rap i sing its just for rapping like feature's u kno?

but i have a price range of 300 - 400 max

[RTR]

Get the sm7b..I use it for rap/r&b and it is my go to mic almost every time!!!!..the other guy is talking about "eses" the way a mic picks up the sound of words that start with "S"...I have never had that problem with my sm7b..I keep the wind foam on it!!

[kac123ige]

any other suggestions?

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by kac123ige

AKG C3000B

not this mic!

i'll recommend the sm7b, too. for LDC's in the same price point, the adk, hamburg and vienna are excellent mics. the mxl v69 is a truly stellar mic for its range, too...especially with a tube swap! for the extremely budget oriented, the mxl v67i covers alot of ground and sounds damn good while doing so.
coupled with a nice preamp like the CL 7602, GAP pre-73, or something similar yields for solid results.

keep in mind: is your room good? an LDC will show you how bad your room is, a LDD is more forgiving. at any rate, at least put some thought into treating the room if you haven't done so already.

[kac123ige]

yeah the room i have should be ok i think i am in a garage that i can close the door then there is another room next to my computer just a small room and i can put the mic in there and close the door so that might work out

but why not the akg c3000b ? that was the main one i was looking at besides the shure sm7b since it seems like a good mic no need for a preamp by default

[kac123ige]

well you suggest i get the shure sm7b over a akg c3000b
and if this is the case what is a decent preamp to use with it
for 100$ cause im pushin my budget loolz cuz i dun wanna buy used
stuff( or is it really that bad???)

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by kac123ige

yeah the room i have should be ok i think i am in a garage that i can close the door then there is another room next to my computer just a small room and i can put the mic in there and close the door so that might work out

but why not the akg c3000b ? that was the main one i was looking at besides the shure sm7b since it seems like a good mic no need for a preamp by default

the sm7b is a better mic for the non treated room you will be recording in. the c3000b is, to my ears, pretty harsh and boring. it was my first "good" LDC before i ever found GS. since then i have moved onto to better mics for less money and way better mics for the same money. the c3000b is not a bad mic, but for the money is blown away by other mics in its price range, LDC-wise, the at4040, v69, c3, and others.
btw, the c3000 is a condenser and will need phantom power. if you don't have a preamp with that, then you will need an outboard pre.

[88fingerz]

What preamp will the mic be matched with? Look into an M-Audio Sputnik or a Blue Blueberry.

[KeithMoonwannabe]

In all honesty the style of vocals and stuff is irrelevant info. Because every voice, every rig, and every environment are different. To say that one mic will trump all others leading you blindly would be lying. With this I will be the one to tell you before you buy anything audition the mics prior to purchasing anything. If possible take the mic(s) you are most interested in to your space and try them out there. See what works for what you will be doing. I'm betting the SM7b or RE-20 would be perfect for your situation but I'm not going to bet my life on it. Ultimately your ears have to be the judge because I'm not going to be the one dropping the cash or living with the outcome.

1. TREAT YOUR ROOM! If you don't know what we're talking about search the forum, search google, etc. Broadband absorbers, gobos, diffusors, and/or bass traps. You need to get the sound you want in the room right if you want it to turn out right when it hits tape/disk. Regardless of what mic you throw up if the room doesn't sound good it's probably going to translate into your recordings. A dynamic will typically reveal less of the room flaws than a condenser but that doesn't mean the problem isn't there. If you are listening/mixing, tracking, anything at all in this room you need to HEAR ACCURATELY otherwise everything you do from tracking to mixing will simply be guesswork.

2. TRUST YOUR EARS! if it sounds right it is right, don't let someone else tell you what to buy. Take the suggestions go to a store and try out as many things as you can. Ultimately you have to spend the cash and live with the outcome of the purchase get what you want!

3. BE REALISTIC! Don't expect to just start churning out pro level recordings because you have $500 to drop on gear. Money doesn't buy talent, buying nice gear doesn't make you more talented. Learn the art of engineering and the art of making music if you realistically want to obtain good results.

I have some questions you say your new to recording what do you have so far? How will you be recording?

If you are using a computer, have you purchased an audio interface yet? If so what is it? If not, you may not have a need (at least for now) for an outboard mic preamp.

Without knowing your plans, your environment, what you sound like, what gear you have or will be using it's guesswork for me to tell you what to do.

Being a business major I'd say lay everything out and make a plan. Otherwise like I said every move you make from selecting gear, to tracking, to mixing, etc will be guess work and you may not be happy with the end results because you don't have a full understanding of where you are going, what you want, or what you are doing. Now is the time to figure all that stuff out. Set a maximum budget for starters than tell us what you have, where you want to go, and what you think you need to get the results you want.

[goldenlotus]

Out of those mics I would grab the NT1000

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by goldenlotus

Out of those mics I would grab the NT1000

i have used the nt2000, the big brother to the nt1000 and i will say that it is a good mic. pretty sterile, but a good sounding mic. not a lot of character, but decently flat and not extremely hyped. not a lot of balls, but solid. if the nt1000 exhibits the same type of traits, then it will be good. albeit, i still stand firm with my original post.

[2Loud]

Dont want to hi jack the thread, but I would not say mic is "sibilant", the source is.

Mics can be dark, bright whatever, but not sibilant in my opinion.
It just can emphasize \ tame vocalist potential sibilance. Having similar experience with preamps. {harsh vs round smooth sound}

SM7 will do the nice job / as any of another 20 nice mics on the market, depends lots on your taste I think.. - and Id get it anyway. Real workhorse, no matter the style.

Havin couple of suitable mics in mind, but if you can - search around, try to listen to the mics you are interested at your place, and then decide.

Without that you can be pretty dissapointed, or ..surprised.

Just my 5.
Have Luck..

[kac123ige]

Originally Posted by KeithMoonwannabe

In all honesty the style of vocals and stuff is irrelevant info. Because every voice, every rig, and every environment are different. To say that one mic will trump all others leading you blindly would be lying. With this I will be the one to tell you before you buy anything audition the mics prior to purchasing anything. If possible take the mic(s) you are most interested in to your space and try them out there. See what works for what you will be doing. I'm betting the SM7b or RE-20 would be perfect for your situation but I'm not going to bet my life on it. Ultimately your ears have to be the judge because I'm not going to be the one dropping the cash or living with the outcome.

1. TREAT YOUR ROOM! If you don't know what we're talking about search the forum, search google, etc. Broadband absorbers, gobos, diffusors, and/or bass traps. You need to get the sound you want in the room right if you want it to turn out right when it hits tape/disk. Regardless of what mic you throw up if the room doesn't sound good it's probably going to translate into your recordings. A dynamic will typically reveal less of the room flaws than a condenser but that doesn't mean the problem isn't there. If you are listening/mixing, tracking, anything at all in this room you need to HEAR ACCURATELY otherwise everything you do from tracking to mixing will simply be guesswork.

2. TRUST YOUR EARS! if it sounds right it is right, don't let someone else tell you what to buy. Take the suggestions go to a store and try out as many things as you can. Ultimately you have to spend the cash and live with the outcome of the purchase get what you want!

3. BE REALISTIC! Don't expect to just start churning out pro level recordings because you have $500 to drop on gear. Money doesn't buy talent, buying nice gear doesn't make you more talented. Learn the art of engineering and the art of making music if you realistically want to obtain good results.

I have some questions you say your new to recording what do you have so far? How will you be recording?

If you are using a computer, have you purchased an audio interface yet? If so what is it? If not, you may not have a need (at least for now) for an outboard mic preamp.

Without knowing your plans, your environment, what you sound like, what gear you have or will be using it's guesswork for me to tell you what to do.

Being a business major I'd say lay everything out and make a plan. Otherwise like I said every move you make from selecting gear, to tracking, to mixing, etc will be guess work and you may not be happy with the end results because you don't have a full understanding of where you are going, what you want, or what you are doing. Now is the time to figure all that stuff out. Set a maximum budget for starters than tell us what you have, where you want to go, and what you think you need to get the results you want.

i am going to be getting a mbox 2 mini
and it has a built in preamp so i thought i would be good with that for starters