Plug-In's

[AMIEL]

Originally Posted by deadroom

Sorry if you guys have seen this a billion times, but i really haven't gotten the answer I'm looking for in the small amount of searching I did through prior threads.

I use the stock plug-in's that came with PT LE8, (AIR reverb, EQIII, Compression etc) but i've been curious in particular about the reverb plug-in's that are out there that i'm not utilizing.

The AIR reverb does not give me a warm fuzzy and I almost dislike using it.

Any recomendations for reverb?

The compression plug-ins have not given me problems, but are there other compression plug-in's that are better?

Hell, just make some recommendations! lol

Thanks

Get this you will bless me!
Breverb audioMIDI Edition from audioMIDI.com

[aof21]

Maybe give a little more info as to what you are looking for...

What do / don't you like about the current plugs you are using?
What are you missing / looking for soundwise that you can't seem to get with the stock plugs?

Here's some of my own experiences for what they are worth. I've found good Reverb is one of the most difficult things to find without spending a lot of cash. If you are making a style of music where there is a lot of audible reverb and you want it to sound "realistic" you are kinda SOL trying to get that expensive reverb sound using cheap plugs. On the other hand, I've found D-Verb can be fantastic in many cases. Its often preferable to warmer more realistic sounding reverbs if you are going to be using multiple instances of it. The thin sound of DVerb allows it to do the trick without muddying up the mix too much. Where I work we also have Eventide Reverb plug, which is quite good and versatile and ReVibe, which is much better than DVerb or TruVerb if you want a realistic reverb sound, but ReVibe can be so thick and warm it can really muddy up a mix.

Waves TruVerb and Rennaissance Reverb are ok, but I've never really loved either of them. RVerb is kinda ok / generic and TruVerb's interface has always been a bit too awkward for me to ever really get into it.

Haven't tried many other plug-in reverbs, but there's some opinions on those.

[Jonboy79]

check out Wave Arts reverb plug. It's not very expensive compared to other reverbs and is super extensive. It' also doesn't produce any latency what so ever so you won't have to nudge any tracks or anything. Also Massey's tape delay plug in works wonders in some situations. I know it's not exactly reverb but it does the trick a lot of times for me. Check out the Wave Arts stuff though, great customer service and great sounding plugs.

[Stiff]

There's a ton of them! But remember, better is subjective...

I, for instance, like compressors with character most of the time. For plug-ins along those lines McDSP, PSP, URS and our own (Softube) comes to mind. Give the Massey a look as well, it's cheap and good. Other (different) options would perhaps be soething from Sonnox or Flux. There are plenty of compressors available from said companies and others, but you'll have to do all the trying yourself. Luckily most offer demos.

What kind of music do you make/engineer?

For reverb... Well, let's say I'm not a reverb kind of guy. I like spring reverbs and not much more than that. There's an emulation of one among the AIR stuff if I remember correctly. For regular reverbs, VirSyn Reflect is still the only software reverb I really like.

Happy hunting.

[deadroom]

Originally Posted by Stiff

There's a ton of them! But remember, better is subjective...

I, for instance, like compressors with character most of the time. For plug-ins along those lines McDSP, PSP, URS and our own (Softube) comes to mind. Give the Massey a look as well, it's cheap and good. Other (different) options would perhaps be soething from Sonnox or Flux. There are plenty of compressors available from said companies and others, but you'll have to do all the trying yourself. Luckily most offer demos.

What kind of music do you make/engineer?

For reverb... Well, let's say I'm not a reverb kind of guy. I like spring reverbs and not much more than that. There's an emulation of one among the AIR stuff if I remember correctly. For regular reverbs, VirSyn Reflect is still the only software reverb I really like.

Happy hunting.

I operate a small high volume home studio from home and I like to flavor my snare and toms with reverb to make the drum mix sound bigger and more full but there's a lot of "muddiness" to it for lack of a better word in addition to it not sounding very natural.
I am mainly working with heavier music (rock punk hardcore or metal - I live in San Antonio, it's in the water here or somthing).

[barrythave]

Try this one:

2Caudio Aether

2CAudio | products | aether 1.0.1

[M2E]

The plugins that come with Pro Tools are good. For the Air Reverb, add a 1 band eq after and LPF everything starting from 10k then start moving down. Also, dip whatever freq that ur vocal is using like 300hz. I usually HPF off anywhere from 100hz to 300 ha on reverb's for vocals. Plugins have a high tinty type of sound as well and you have to shape them to fit ur need.
Brverb is ok... They have it for sale at audiomidi for like 9 buck I think still. To me though, it doesn't compare to the more high end reverbs like TC VSS3 and Eventide or even the Re-Vibe which is a great reverb.
Try this tip.... Save money until you want to get some more high end in plugins.

Jus my thought.
Hope this helps....

Marc

[aof21]

Originally Posted by M2E

The plugins that come with Pro Tools are good. For the Air Reverb, add a 1 band eq after and LPF everything starting from 10k then start moving down. Also, dip whatever freq that ur vocal is using like 300hz. I usually HPF off anywhere from 100hz to 300 ha on reverb's for vocals. Plugins have a high tinty type of sound as well and you have to shape them to fit ur need.

YES! Eqing or doing other processing post-reverb can dramatically improve the sound of even a cheap reverb plug. Great suggestion.

[Hotstuff]

DVerb is actually not bad at all, dont be afraid to use it, the room2 algorithm is great for drums as is the non linear preset. dont forget to adjust the pre delay and do a HPF cut after the verb to clean up the mud a bit. The stock plugs that come with protools are very usable.

Hotstuff

[drewbonez]

I love the waves ren plugs...simple to use, sound great, great GUI. I have used and will probably purchase the waves ssl bundle soon. I like the mcdsp analog channel plugs but the g channel never really clicked with me. The massey plugs are great and have fully functional demos if you want to try them. I just returned my duende, I liked the sound, but just didn't feel it was worth the $700 to me.

[Jonboy79]

I have to say it again, Wave Arts is great for the money. Just look at how sexy it is.

Wave Arts | Plugins | MasterVerb 5

But, that aside, it really does sound wonderful and it's very versatile. I honestly can't believe these plugs haven't caught on better. They have a demo available and if you purchase the whole suite you get a pretty nice discount. I bought them all and besides TrackPlug introducing a little bit of delay(I have to nudge 125 samples, I dont' think any of the other do and I know the reverb doesn't for sure)I've had no problems at all with these plugs. On top of that their customer service is top notch. I bought these plugs 3 or 4 years ago and ran into a slight hiccup while downloading the plugs(I'm not computer savvy at all)and their tech guys answered my email within 5 minutes and spent all the time I needed(even waiting for me to record and test a track)to get everything straightened out. On top of all that, I even love their MultiDynamics5 plug, and I've hated just about every other maul-the-band comp I've ever used.