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Old 26th August 2009   #1
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sm7b vs nt1-a

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im sure anyone and their grandmothers can tell which one is which

but which one do you guys think sounds better?


friend of mine said he liked the first one because it had more 'punch'...
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No offense, but they both sound like dfegad with all that tuning artifact.
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come one man quit busting my balls

it's an old hellogoodbye song and that's how the original is
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come one man quit busting my balls

it's an old hellogoodbye song and that's how the original is
scrubs makes a valid point -- the differences between chains (mics, pres, comps, whatever) can be masked by heavy processing.
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i just want to know which one you guys think sounds better T.T
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still sounds like it needs a little work.. compression and eq maybe?
but I do agree that 1 punches right through the speakers...

So I'd choose that one to work with I think...
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still sounds like it needs a little work.. compression and eq maybe?
but I do agree that 1 punches right through the speakers...

So I'd choose that one to work with I think...
there's a bunch of compression on both

eq is pretty basic cutoff and a dip on the low mids

maybe i should work on the second mix to make em stand out more?

first mix i feel like it stands out way too much and makes me sound nasal and weird
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I like #1 version better. Both sound good. Catchy tune. Nice job. Sounds like a modern record to me.

(This from a 50 year old Beach Boys fan)
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I like #1 version better. Both sound good. Catchy tune. Nice job. Sounds like a modern record to me.

(This from a 50 year old Beach Boys fan)
thanks man it's a hellogoodbye cover haha

and hey there's nothing wrong with loving the beach boys!
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just updated bonnie 2

different compression and tried to match the eq of bonnie 1

any guesses to which one is which yet?
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Bonnie #2

#2 Please.

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#2 Please.

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#2 suits that track best.
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probably #1.
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I think #2 sounds better.

Also, you did a good job on the song, however, I would cut back on the amount of Autotune. It's not nearly as evident/obvious in the original version.
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which is which?

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just updated bonnie 2

different compression and tried to match the eq of bonnie 1

any guesses to which one is which yet?
Sounds like #1 is the rode & #2 is the shure.
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I think #2 sounds better.

Also, you did a good job on the song, however, I would cut back on the amount of Autotune. It's not nearly as evident/obvious in the original version.
thanks!

and i'll check that out! all i did was slap a ton of pitch correction on it haha
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I vote strongly for number 1 (which I'm entirely sure is the SM7): smoother, thicker, and less polluted with room noise.

Nice work on the song.
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I vote strongly for number 1 (which I'm entirely sure is the SM7): smoother, thicker, and less polluted with room noise.

Nice work on the song.
sorry but you're completely wrong :(

also i'll add that both were recorded in the exact same circumstances (same room, same vocal booth, same preamp, same cable, same converters, same macbook, same faggot singing etc)

number 2 does have a bit more plate reverb i believe though
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So you...didn't do a good job on the song?
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So you...didn't do a good job on the song?
yeah i forgot to take that out of the quote.. im a little slow today

thanks though!
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not really a good scenario to a/b mics but I would go with a sm7 over a nt-1 any day. Nt-1s can sound OK, but they have a very tinny cheap sound that I don't like, from my experiences. There are a bunch of other good mics out there in that price range
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yeah i forgot to take that out of the quote.. im a little slow today

thanks though!
I knew what you meant. I'm just deflecting my embarrassment. I was so sure, too!
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hmmm... I'm not sure.

No.1 sounds "warmer" but it has some kind of boxyness to it that I like a little bit less, maybe it just needs to be mixed better?

It's a little bit hard to tell with all the tuning effect.

No.2 seems to fit this song a little bit better to me, I didn't listen in my studio though.
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sorry but you're completely wrong :(

also i'll add that both were recorded in the exact same circumstances (same room, same vocal booth, same preamp, same cable, same converters, same macbook, same faggot singing etc)

number 2 does have a bit more plate reverb i believe though
So No.2 is the SM7B?
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not really a good scenario to a/b mics but I would go with a sm7 over a nt-1 any day. Nt-1s can sound OK, but they have a very tinny cheap sound that I don't like, from my experiences. There are a bunch of other good mics out there in that price range
i think im my case the sm7b fits my voice a lot better

maybe not in this song but i generally have a raspy-ish voice when hitting high notes and with the rode nt1-a being a hash mic it just didn't sound very good at all

i actually have 2 rode nt1-as atm (one is borrowed) and even though they're a bit harsh i think they're still pretty useful i guess
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Not nearly enough autotune on those takes!

But seriously, I don't think either of the takes sound "polluted with room sound" !??!?! - maybe that comment was a joke...

I like the thicker, smoother, more natural sound of the sm7b (clip2) But for this mix where the track itself is very hyped in the highs, and autoned, the more hyped mic works nicely too. Both mics work here.
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So No.2 is the SM7B?
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#2 for me with a deesser of course
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But seriously, I don't think either of the takes sound "polluted with room sound" !??!?! - maybe that comment was a joke...
I can see why it'd be taken as a joke, but I was being serious -- granted, I'm listening on my netbook, but you can hear some "business" (read: reflections) in the 2nd take compared to the 1st. Man, I'm fighting a bout of cognitive dissonance right now: that first take sounds so smooth! Smooth like Loggins! How can that be the Rode?
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