Suggestions for Studio Monitors in the 600-700 range

[socool135]

I've used the Yamaha HS80M monitors and liked them. Is there anything better in this price range? I'd like to buy something powered so I don't have to deal with buying a power amp. Thanks in advance.

Scott

[Chris Lago]

Originally Posted by socool135

I've used the Yamaha HS80M monitors and liked them. Is there anything better in this price range? I'd like to buy something powered so I don't have to deal with buying a power amp. Thanks in advance.

Scott

I think the HS50 are a bit better for mixing.

[awakened]

Originally Posted by chrislago

I think the HS50 are a bit better for mixing.

i agree as well with the HS50s.

But if you're looking for something with the same size / response of the HS80, why not look for a used pair of NS-10s?

[stevens119]

Originally Posted by awakened

why not look for a used pair of NS-10s?

Totally agreed. If you want speakers for mixing, might as well get the real thing. You could probably get some NS-10's and some other monitors for your budget, or get some NS-10 and a really nice set of headphones.

[Bouldy]

Originally Posted by chrislago

I think the HS50 are a bit better for mixing.

I'm in the same market at the moment, I am interested to your opinion as to why the 50's are better? I thought the 80's would have a better lower freq response and there wouldn't necessarily be a need for a sub, which I would think would be needed with the 50's? Whats your take Chris or anyone for that matter? For me NS10's would be near impossible to find here.

Dave

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by awakened

i agree as well with the HS50s.

But if you're looking for something with the same size / response of the HS80, why not look for a used pair of NS-10s?

yup, get some ns-10s and a hafler.


rich

[awakened]

Originally Posted by Bouldy

I'm in the same market at the moment, I am interested to your opinion as to why the 50's are better? I thought the 80's would have a better lower freq response and there wouldn't necessarily be a need for a sub, which I would think would be needed with the 50's? Whats your take Chris or anyone for that matter? For me NS10's would be near impossible to find here.

Dave

the difference in the low end is a negligible point, all monitors with an 8-in cone usually start rolling off at 125Hz.

yes, you do need a sub.

[Snatchman]

Originally Posted by rty5150

yup, get some ns-10s and a hafler.


rich

Yep...Agreed....

[Bouldy]

Originally Posted by awakened

the difference in the low end is a negligible point, all monitors with an 8-in cone usually start rolling off at 125Hz.

yes, you do need a sub.

Ah... cool thanks for that. For me then I mays as well just get the Hs50's.

Dave

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by awakened

the difference in the low end is a negligible point, all monitors with an 8-in cone usually start rolling off at 125Hz.

yes, you do need a sub.

double for me on that!!! the more subs, the better. just remember to spread them out. i run a 200w 12" sub with my rp8's. controlled low end is the best. rogue bass waves are the worst.


rich

[Jonesfromindia]

i dont understand why everyone loves the HS series....

i personally would take a VXT6 setup, it fits your range.

you could even afford the new LSR 2325's with the sub to go with them.

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by Jonesfromindia

i dont understand why everyone loves the HS series....

i personally would take a VXT6 setup, it fits your range.

you could even afford the new LSR 2325's with the sub to go with them.

because they look like ns-10s





rich

[Aaron Miller]

Another vote for NS-10s.

[Bouldy]

Originally Posted by Jonesfromindia

i dont understand why everyone loves the HS series....

Originally Posted by rty5150

because they look like ns-10s





rich

I think when you're a nooby like me, the KRK's unique(ish) yellow look can seem either cool or gimicky, whereas the Yamaha's look all boring and professional(ish). But at the end of the day I wouldn't have a clue......except people in forums who apparently know what their talking about, say that the ns10s are (albeit old) industry standard, and the hs50s are the most comparable.
I'm not sure if that even made sense?

Dave

[rty5150]

Originally Posted by Bouldy

I think when you're a nooby like me, the KRK's unique(ish) yellow look can seem either cool or gimicky, whereas the Yamaha's look all boring and professional(ish). But at the end of the day I wouldn't have a clue......except people in forums who apparently know what their talking about, say that the ns10s are (albeit old) industry standard, and the hs50s are the most comparable.
I'm not sure if that even made sense?

Dave

i actually love the krk's. i own a pair of RP8's and RP5's. first gens, though, but i love them. the RP5's are setup for my drummer and i mix through the RP8's. both rigs are setup up with subs. each set has it's own 200w 12".
after the dust settles on my new studio and finaces, i WILL get a pair of ns-10s and possibly either tannoys, adams, or genelecs. but the ns-10s will be the next big monitor purchase.


rich

[Chris Lago]

Originally Posted by Bouldy

I'm in the same market at the moment, I am interested to your opinion as to why the 50's are better? I thought the 80's would have a better lower freq response and there wouldn't necessarily be a need for a sub, which I would think would be needed with the 50's? Whats your take Chris or anyone for that matter? For me NS10's would be near impossible to find here.

Dave

Because I've tested both the Hs80 and Hs50 versus the NS10 and the HS50 with the mid boost sounded a lot closer to NS10s. I'm assuming that the NS10s would be the reference monitors of choice, am I right?

[Jonesfromindia]

Originally Posted by chrislago

Because I've tested both the Hs80 and Hs50 versus the NS10 and the HS50 with the mid boost sounded a lot closer to NS10s. I'm assuming that the NS10s would be the reference monitors of choice, am I right?

everyone hears things differently. when ever people ask me what monitors i recommend i tell them, what does it matter? my ears are different. i hear things differently. i like my music a certain way.

i dont think there is an "industry standard" for any type of gear that can have a biased opinion.

[Bouldy]

Originally Posted by Jonesfromindia

everyone hears things differently. when ever people ask me what monitors i recommend i tell them, what does it matter? my ears are different. i hear things differently. i like my music a certain way.

Agreed

Personally, I don't like it when someone states catagorically that 'brand X' is the only one to buy as inevitably you end up with a thread full of yays/nays/and whatabouts. What I am most interested in is what people personally use (and what works for them), and then what their music sounds like, to see if I can relate it to what I will be doing. I know this theory is flawed but....

Dave

[socool135]

The point of me starting this thread was to find a pair of monitors that translate well. I know that everyone's hears things differently, but we are just looking for a pair of monitors that translate mixes as close as possible.

[Stitch333]

I find that my old pair of Tannoy DMT II 12's give me a good foundation for what my mixes will sound like.
They are fairly cheap now-a-days...

One idea that helps some is to have a speaker switcher set up with your production monitors on one channel and an old marantz (my personal favorite, but any old stereo will do) console stereo on the other to hear reproduction sonics in contrast. If you have a third channel on the switcher box, get a 20 dollar pair of el cheap-o computer monitors...
Instant A/B/C real world translation.

[djgizmo]

i personally have the HS50s and I have a hard time translating on the first mix. I usually need to check on another system/set of speakers before I can finish a mix. (Yes, this is in a treated space)

The whole mid range peak thing throws me a bit off. I do like the quality of the HS50s though as I use them for everything, from post, to game audio, to music.

[audioboffin]

I've worked with a pair of Dynaudio BM 15s with a sub for years, and I have a pair of Yammie HS 80's at home (no sub). I have to say the HS 80's are a LOT closer to BM 15's than Yamaha NS10's. I'd personally much rather mix on the HS80's than NS10's, and I have found the HS80's easy to "learn".

KRKs are also great monitors, very predictable results and quiet easy to "learn".

Personally I think that the HS80's are styled similarly to Dyn BM15's and the HS50's are styled on BM6's. The Dyn users are evenly divided on which they prefer to mix on, the larger or smaller boxes. I reckon it's related to the size of the room you are working in.

The reason why a lot of people go for the new powered yammies is that they are a better monitor than NS10s. and getting drivers for NS10's is getting to be really difficult and expensive. I definitely wouldn't propose anyone going out of their way to take that route.

That's my 2 cents worth.