Can someone critique my drum sound please?
houndog328
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8th February 2009
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Can someone critique my drum sound please?

Just getting use to mic placement, etc. Tell me what you think.

Here's what I got going on.

D12E on kick 1 inch into hole of outside head.
SM57 on snare, 1 1/2 inches from top, 45 degree angle just off rim.
KM84 as overhead, 3 feet above center of snare (just one).
SM58 facing kit about 4 feet away as room mic.

A little compression on kick and snare using an 1176 plugin and very little EQ using a Pultec plugin on both. Dash of reverb on room mic only.

Kit is a 60's 20" Ludwig bass drum, 30's 5x14" Ludwig brass snare, 14" Zildjian hats.
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9th February 2009
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Is it panned at all?
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9th February 2009
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No. Should it be?
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9th February 2009
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I think they sound OK on their own - in the context of the song it could be different though - remember that drums are tricky in that they often sound good solo'd and shitty in the mix, or vice versa. What you have there is a fairly useful track though - good job :o)

Cheers,
Cam
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9th February 2009
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Yeah it would sound a lot cooler if the Overheads were panned a little, to give it some ambience feel.
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9th February 2009
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Originally Posted by chrislago View Post
Yeah it would sound a lot cooler if the Overheads were panned a little, to give it some ambience feel.
Kinda hard with mono OH :oP

But I hear ya - it would give the kit more vibe.
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9th February 2009
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Yeah I know, I just noticed he used 1 overhead haha.

Here's a little something I did with your drums. Enjoy! If you know how to use Fruity Loops, I suggest you use your drums, add it with other drums to make full songs.

I used a soundgoodizer plugin on your drums by the way.
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9th February 2009
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Yeah I know, I just noticed he used 1 overhead haha.

Here's a little something I did with your drums. Enjoy! If you know how to use Fruity Loops, I suggest you use your drums, add it with other drums to make full songs.

I used a soundgoodizer plugin on your drums by the way.

I wanna dance like its 1997!!!!

I think your original drums sound cool, old school and funky. If thats what your going for i say good job...esp with the tools you have.

This clip has some great example of that old 70s pillow funk sound..he has different rec setup off course but yours still sounds cool!

YouTube - Paul Jackson and Mike Clark part 1
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9th February 2009
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Ha! Thanks Chris, that made my day. And thanks for all the feedback. I felt good about what I got in such a short time of messing around, it can only get better ...
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9th February 2009
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Get a second KM84, that would help a lot!
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9th February 2009
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Thanks, I've got a RCA 77DX that's getting a new ribbon right now so that will be in the mix soon. Any thoughts on the kick?
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9th February 2009
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push the mic further into the kick. I like more hard thump and less boom from my kick drums.
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Originally Posted by Cameron Johnson View Post
I think they sound OK on their own - in the context of the song it could be different though - remember that drums are tricky in that they often sound good solo'd and shitty in the mix, or vice versa. What you have there is a fairly useful track though - good job :o)

Cheers,
Cam
My thoughts exactly. I don't hear any glaring technical owies... everything sounds clean and present. Maybe the snare has a tad (and I mean smidge) excessive over-ring, but that is purely my own opinion... could still could work fine for the song depending on key etc. Nothing wrong with a mono OH too... if there are no tom rolls and ride work featured

I think the kick is fine... though svart has a good suggestion to maybe move the D12 another inch or so into the kick... I don't think you would have to move it much more than that.

I think you are on the right track (um... tracks... pardon the pun). Would be cool if you could post a mix later with the backing tracks, so we could hear the drums in context.
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