Black Lion Audio Auteur vs RNP - Page 3

psycom · 14th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Paul D

I got that email, wish I'd have known this was coming before I paid the full $465 price for the Auteur a few weeks ago instead of $395 plus your 15% discount, might've been able to jump on the MK-012s I've been eyeing!!

The 15% off is already applied to the BLA. There's not another discount on top of that for the mic mods. :( I thought the same thing too and Mr. J corrected me.

Michael_Joly · 14th March 2009

Oops, sorry about that. Black Lion and I reviewed the text of the promo a dozen times and totally missed that point of confusion.

Because the Auteur is a single product we listed its actual sale price. But as I'm offering 15% off my entire line of mods the easiest way to express that was as a percentage. Mixing the two discount descriptions created some confusion. My apologies.

Axiz7 · 17th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Michael_Joly

Oops, sorry about that. Black Lion and I reviewed the text of the promo a dozen times and totally missed that point of confusion.

So...Is the Auteur $395 by itself, or only with the purchase of a mic??? -Thx

Michael_Joly · 17th March 2009

The Auteur is regularly $465. You get it for 15% off ($395) when you make a simultaneous OktavaMod purchase - this can either be a new, modified mic OR an upgrade to a mic you send me that I modify. You also get 15% off the OktavaMod list price.

Orders are being handled by Black Lion.

Axiz7 · 17th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Joly

The Auteur is regularly $465. You get it for 15% off ($395) when you make a simultaneous OktavaMod purchase - this can either be a new, modified mic OR an upgrade to a mic you send me that I modify. You also get 15% off the OktavaMod list price.

Orders are being handled by Black Lion.

Thanks Mike...Care to recommend your favorite LDC for both acoustic guitar and male vocals..So i can do this deal???

Octava that is...

Eloheim · 18th March 2009

From what I've picked up from this thread, getting a BLA to replace my RNP wouldn't be much of an upgrade?

Seems like the opions go a little in favor of the BLA but not my that much, right? Probly better to save for a GR or something like that when I want to upgrade?

If anyone would care to disagree or has any input it'd be much appreciated

Thanks for the time.

Snatchman · 19th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eloheim

From what I've picked up from this thread, getting a BLA to replace my RNP wouldn't be much of an upgrade?

Seems like the opions go a little in favor of the BLA but not my that much, right? Probly better to save for a GR or something like that when I want to upgrade?

If anyone would care to disagree or has any input it'd be much appreciated

Thanks for the time.

Hello. I have the Autuer ( as well as the GR,OSA,Biz, etc..).. I've used the RNP also..I think it's gonna depend on the source which would work best for you. I like the Autuer. It's not for everything, but neither are the others...I've stated that if it was a 500 style pre, IMO would be one of the " sought after" pres...For the money and you're on a budget, it's worth the listen...

Eloheim · 19th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snatchman

Hello. I have the Autuer ( as well as the GR,OSA,Biz, etc..).. I've used the RNP also..I think it's gonna depend on the source which would work best for you. I like the Autuer. It's not for everything, but neither are the others...I've stated that if it was a 500 style pre, IMO would be one of the " sought after" pres...For the money and you're on a budget, it's worth the listen...

Thanks. I know I kinda answered my own question already i think.

I'd mainly be recording vocals and DI bass but some other stuff like acoustic guitar and live percussion too.

There is something to what someone said earlier in this thread about the features of the RNP. I have an RNC also, so the inserts on the RNP are nice (although there are ways around this). Also it didn't look like the BLA has DI inputs. This really isn't a problem for me though because I use a passive DI box between my bass and the pre anyway. And plus I'd probably just hold onto my RNP no matter what as a backup.

musicmatt · 19th March 2009

Forget everything else and just get an API or Great River.

Paul D · 19th March 2009

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Originally Posted by musicmatt

Forget everything else and just get an API or Great River.

That's obviously not an option for everyone, at 4x the price per channel...

Paul D · 19th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eloheim

From what I've picked up from this thread, getting a BLA to replace my RNP wouldn't be much of an upgrade?

Seems like the opions go a little in favor of the BLA but not my that much, right? Probly better to save for a GR or something like that when I want to upgrade?

If anyone would care to disagree or has any input it'd be much appreciated

Thanks for the time.

Having all three, I'd have to agree. I do like the sound of the Auteur somewhat better than the RNP but they RNP has more features/functionality so it's a tossup. If possible I'd save up and make a bigger step up...

BTW I have A/B clips of the GR ME-1NV, RNP and Auteur if you're interested I can email them no problem....

Webb · 19th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Paul D

Having all three, I'd have to agree. I do like the sound of the Auteur somewhat better than the RNP but they RNP has more features/functionality so it's a tossup. If possible I'd save up and make a bigger step up...

BTW I have A/B clips of the GR ME-1NV, RNP and Auteur if you're interested I can email them no problem....

Paul, I would love to hear an A/B comparison. I currently have a RNP and have an Auteur on its way to me...would love to hear how they compare to the GR (which is a bit out of my price range right now).

Please email me if you can: bwebb71@gmail.com

Thanks!

Paul D · 19th March 2009

No problem Webb, I'll send them tonight. Three 4MB WAV clips, is that OK?

Webb · 19th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Paul D

No problem Webb, I'll send them tonight. Three 4MB WAV clips, is that OK?

That would be great. Thank you!

Paul D · 20th March 2009

Clips on the way, let me know what you think/hear.......

shadyru · 20th March 2009

Paul any chance to share that with everyone...if not please pm me I will shoot you my email. Thanks!

Eloheim · 20th March 2009

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Originally Posted by shadyru

Paul any chance to share that with everyone...if not please pm me I will shoot you my email. Thanks!

My too. I PM you though.

Groberts · 20th March 2009

Me too! Would love to hear the clips!

Paul D · 20th March 2009

LOL I would but my file sharing site is down. If anyone wants to host the clips that would be great otherwise I'm stuck with email...anybody that wants them PM me your email address and I'll try and get them out tonight...

Obitheincredible · 20th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Paul D

LOL I would but my file sharing site is down. If anyone wants to host the clips that would be great otherwise I'm stuck with email...anybody that wants them PM me your email address and I'll try and get them out tonight...

Email me at Obi at Obiaudio.com or pm me I'll host.

Paul D · 20th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Obitheincredible

Email me at Obi at Obiaudio.com or pm me I'll host.

Awesome thanks! Emails on the way....

Obitheincredible · 21st March 2009

Cool! Just got the emails. Let me put something together with the info. I'll post it in a few hours.

Obitheincredible · 21st March 2009

Clips listed on the site now!!!!

Obi Audio

Obitheincredible · 23rd March 2009

Can the BLA fit in a 1U rack mount? If so how many can I fit in a 1U rack?

Paul D · 24th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Obitheincredible

Can the BLA fit in a 1U rack mount? If so how many can I fit in a 1U rack?

Good question, it seems like it might but I'm not sure, it's a bit narrower and taller than the RNP

Marty · 24th March 2009

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Originally Posted by Paul D

Good question, it seems like it might but I'm not sure, it's a bit narrower and taller than the RNP

I have both the BLA + RNP. The BLA is 2" tall so it won't fit in a 1u rack space (1 3/4") without removing it from the case. Sonically both are equally good with a sm57 on snares or guitars. Adequate on vocals, but not stellar. Just my 2 cents, but I've only had my BLA 3 months, and I've had my RNP for 2 years, so time will tell.

Obitheincredible · 24th March 2009

Well that sucks. I wanted to get a few pres to add to my echo layla. I was going to get 2 dmp3's, a bla auteur, and was thinking perhaps some rane msb1's or even the studio projects vtb. Now the BLA is out of the question for me because it is a rack mounted portable setup. Now I think I will have to find something else.

Heartfelt · 24th March 2009

Have you thought about a Sytek? They are racked and you get 4 for adecent price. They would likely be a step up. I think they run about 700 or so.

Obitheincredible · 24th March 2009

What model. I was looking at the 202 I think it was called. Are they better than the dmp3? I have a grace m101 and a spirit m4 currently, I was considering another grace but that would blow the budget and I would not get 7 ore 8 pres. I can get away with 6 for under a g.

Heartfelt · 24th March 2009

check it out:
Sytek Audio Systems - MPX-4Aii Four-Channel Microphone Preamplifier

I do believe it would be a step up. Search here for Sytek and you should see lots of opinions. It is the pre section of a Neotek Elite or Elan console which people love here.

They have a rep for being clean pres, kind of a quality bang for buck utility pre.

18th March 2009	#66
Eloheim Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 655	From what I've picked up from this thread, getting a BLA to replace my RNP wouldn't be much of an upgrade? Seems like the opions go a little in favor of the BLA but not my that much, right? Probly better to save for a GR or something like that when I want to upgrade? If anyone would care to disagree or has any input it'd be much appreciated Thanks for the time. __________________ Roughly Translated......Comin to your neighborhood

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Obitheincredible Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 577	Cool! Just got the emails. Let me put something together with the info. I'll post it in a few hours. __________________ ObiAudio.com

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Heartfelt Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,432	Have you thought about a Sytek? They are racked and you get 4 for adecent price. They would likely be a step up. I think they run about 700 or so. __________________ Robert Smith Houston, TX www.RobertSmithMusic.com

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14th March 2009	#62
Michael_Joly 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 2,735	Oops, sorry about that. Black Lion and I reviewed the text of the promo a dozen times and totally missed that point of confusion. Because the Auteur is a single product we listed its actual sale price. But as I'm offering 15% off my entire line of mods the easiest way to express that was as a percentage. Mixing the two discount descriptions created some confusion. My apologies.

17th March 2009	#64
Michael_Joly 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 2,735	The Auteur is regularly $465. You get it for 15% off ($395) when you make a simultaneous OktavaMod purchase - this can either be a new, modified mic OR an upgrade to a mic you send me that I modify. You also get 15% off the OktavaMod list price. Orders are being handled by Black Lion.

19th March 2009	#69
musicmatt Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 270	Forget everything else and just get an API or Great River.

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Paul D Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 170	No problem Webb, I'll send them tonight. Three 4MB WAV clips, is that OK?

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Paul D Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 170	Clips on the way, let me know what you think/hear.......

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shadyru Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 645 Thread Starter	Paul any chance to share that with everyone...if not please pm me I will shoot you my email. Thanks!

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Groberts Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tucson, Az Posts: 427	Me too! Would love to hear the clips!

23rd March 2009	#84
Obitheincredible Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 577	Can the BLA fit in a 1U rack mount? If so how many can I fit in a 1U rack?