looking for vintage mics without ebay

[ihateregisterin]

does anyone know where i can find vintage mics (preferebly cheap) without getting into a bidding war? ebay is starting to get on my nerves. to be more specific im looking for a electrovoice ev 664 under 60 bucks.

[djavid15]

Don't have any sites for you, but i have a theory...................... That is, that the person who's selling the item on ebay actually goes on there as a different name and bids right to the deadline, because i've already gotten up to $50 for a cheap mic stand. I think they just do that to keep you going higher. Just a thought.

[Reptil]

I agree: ebay DOES get on anyone's nerves at some point
but I found some great mics and vintage outboard
so IMHO
ebay & valium

[natpub]

http://www.mistyhillaudio.com/microphones.html

http://www.vintageking.com/site/files/index.htm

http://www.bavodekker.com/begin.html

http://www.soundbroker.com/

http://www.hticsproaudio.com/

http://www.tmopaudio.com/Consoles.html

http://www.danalexanderaudio.com/

[mwikkid]

Originally Posted by djavid15

Don't have any sites for you, but i have a theory...................... That is, that the person who's selling the item on ebay actually goes on there as a different name and bids right to the deadline, because i've already gotten up to $50 for a cheap mic stand. I think they just do that to keep you going higher. Just a thought.

think about it for a second: if that works, then why don't you set up a bunch of auctions, use the above technique, and retire early?

because the seller runs the risk of bumping too high, the sale will go to his dummy account, and he'll be stuck paying ebay fees as if it had sold. so now the seller is not only still holding the item, but he's out cash (based on % of sale, too, so the higher he bumps it the more risky it is).

aside from that, you might be on to something.

[Midlandmorgan]

I agree...I hate the entire notion of eBay...

If you are selling something, put a price tag on it and sell it...and leave auctioneering for livestock and antique art...

If the asking price is too high, haggle...but being involved in essential economic warfare is not worth my time (or headaches....) Just tell me what it is and how much you want for it.

Yhere's my $.02....before someone outbids me with 30 seconds to go.

[mwikkid]

Originally Posted by Midlandmorgan

If you are selling something, put a price tag on it and sell it...and leave auctioneering for livestock and antique art...

If the asking price is too high, haggle...but being involved in essential economic warfare is not worth my time (or headaches....)

did you realize that both of these statements contradict themselves?

the first because antique art and livestock fall into the category of "something".

the second because haggling is just as much "economic warfare" as auctioning, perhaps even moreso because haggling involves deeper psychology - persuasion, emotional manipulation, feelings are involved and evoked - sometimes maliciously. in an auction, on the other hand, any headtrips are self imposed, and in the end it's just a question of economics. in haggling it is a combination economics + who's the better sales sophist. i dare say more people hate the thought of haggling than of bidding on an auction.

i'm a big fan of both.

[Midlandmorgan]

Perhaps...but I think not.

Haggling is a simple thing...offer-counteroffer-repeat until everyone is happy...one to one basis, with the previously arranged notion that the relationship between buyer and seller will remain exclusive until the deal is done or an agreement is out out of the question. Sure, there is psychology involved, but its not a difficult concept...On the other hand, eBay is a freakish horror shop filled with rip off artists, misrepresentations, last minute shills driving up prices, etc...the only agreements in eBay are that the highest bid wins, and the persons involved be damned...Has anyone here NEVER lost a bid at the last second?

I would rather discuss a price on a one to one basis and come to an agreement than play around and take my chances by losing out to someone witha a faster internet connection at 3:15 in the morning.

I really do prefer to make purchases the old fashioned way...but to each their own.

[mwikkid]

Originally Posted by Midlandmorgan

Perhaps...but I think not.

Haggling is a simple thing...offer-counteroffer-repeat until everyone is happy...one to one basis, with the previously arranged notion that the relationship between buyer and seller will remain exclusive until the deal is done or an agreement is out out of the question. Sure, there is psychology involved, but its not a difficult concept...

in haggling you may be persuaded to spend more than you intended.

Has anyone here NEVER lost a bid at the last second?

if this happens, what it should mean is that the price got higher than you were willing to pay.

since ebay proxy bids for you, each time nudging your bid up just enough to beat the last bidder (up to your specified maximum amount), there shouldn't be an auction within your price range that you lose - bid as much as you're willing to spend, and if it goes over then the forces of supply and demand at that moment have driven the item out of your price range... for that particular item at that particular moment.

i consistenly find good deals buying things on ebay, and i consistenly do well selling things there, too.

I would rather discuss a price on a one to one basis and come to an agreement than play around and take my chances by losing out to someone witha a faster internet connection at 3:15 in the morning.

you take no chances so long as you bid the MAX you're willing to pay. if it goes for less, GREAT! - you got a deal. if it goes for more, it was more than you wanted to spend. end of story.

I really do prefer to make purchases the old fashioned way...but to each their own.

i'm a big fan of haggling, too. in fact, i fancy myself reasonably good at it. but i think it's just as tricky (maybe a little more). how many middle age housewives feel secure going in and haggling a deal on a new car? how many more feel totally ok plunking down cash for beanie babies & stuff on ebay?

there are reports of auctions dating back to 500 BCE... what's it take to be considered "old fashioned" ?

[mogWai]

No,

Your maximum bid thing doesnt work. Since someone can just come along, bid 2 or 3 times without getting the maximum bid - the result - you just ended up paying more because someone kept on bidding with nothing to lose.

Some people even bid ridiculous amounts to find out the maximum bid, then retract their bid, waith until 2 seconds to go and then bid over your maximum.

bunch of crap.