RNLA & RNC & Great River1NV

[GhostKilla]

I want to buy this 2 : RNLA & RNC..

Can i connect all the 2 of them on Great River ?

Or do i have to connect like : RNLA to RNC together on GR ?

[skiltrip]

Originally Posted by GhostKilla

I want to buy this 2 : RNLA & RNC..

Can i connect all the 2 of them on Great River ?

Or do i have to connect like : RNLA to RNC together on GR ?

You can connect them however you want. If you want to run thru both, go for it.

If you want them permanently chained, you can just run out of your GR into the one FMR and out into the other FMR.

But get a patch bay so you can run into either OR both.

[Weasel9992]

Originally Posted by GhostKilla

I want to buy this 2 : RNLA & RNC..

Can i connect all the 2 of them on Great River ?

Or do i have to connect like : RNLA to RNC together on GR ?

Sure, you *can* do it, but is there some issue you have that you're trying to solve by chaining them together?

Frank

[GhostKilla]

Ehmm,

Or is the RNLA best for vocals ?

I know that RNC is clean and the RNLA colouring.. so why is the RNLA little bit expensive ?

[Soniks]

I own a GR pre myself and getting interested into adding the RNC to the chain. From what I gather, you can use a TRS cable and connect the GR's patch connector to the RNC's Left In which acts like an insert point on a console. That would put the RNC in between the GR's input and output stages, like the manual explains.

My question is what would the difference be if you just connected the RNC after the Output connector of the GR. Either way, you do get the benefit of the output transformer of the GR in the end. So what else affects the way you connect the RNC?
Thanks

[skiltrip]

Originally Posted by Soniks

I own a GR pre myself and getting interested into adding the RNC to the chain. From what I gather, you can use a TRS cable and connect the GR's patch connector to the RNC's Left In which acts like an insert point on a console. That would put the RNC in between the GR's input and output stages, like the manual explains.

My question is what would the difference be if you just connected the RNC after the Output connector of the GR. Either way, you do get the benefit of the output transformer of the GR in the end. So what else affects the way you connect the RNC?
Thanks

Using the one insert (TRS) cable to connect them will be your best option.

Hooking them up inline, you're losing your balanced output that's originating from the GR pre. You'll probably notice on the DAW end that you're losing some dB doing it this way. I know I did when I had my old Grace 101 hooked up inline.

Just use the inserts. I have them hooked up to my RNP this way and it's great.

[Soniks]

Thanks, forgot that the RNC is unbalanced of course.

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Soniks

I own a GR pre myself and getting interested into adding the RNC to the chain. From what I gather, you can use a TRS cable and connect the GR's patch connector to the RNC's Left In which acts like an insert point on a console. That would put the RNC in between the GR's input and output stages, like the manual explains.

My question is what would the difference be if you just connected the RNC after the Output connector of the GR. Either way, you do get the benefit of the output transformer of the GR in the end. So what else affects the way you connect the RNC?
Thanks

The difference would be that the compression would be AFTER the output stage of the preamp. Boosting the output CAL of the Great River will drive the compression. Nothing wrong with doing it this way, its just different. Not always preferable, but doable. Hanging the RNC/RNLA in between the I/O of the Great River will yeild even more tonal versatility!!! If you are using the comps after the preamp outputs, You need to wire balanced XLR's to 1/4 TS unbalanced for this routing, [where ring and sleeve tie together on the TS connector] So my advice is to just use the compressor with a standard balanced TRS cable between the insert points, as the balanced cable will give you unbalanced send to the compressor and unbalanced return from the compressor, so that you can patch the balanced +4 XLR output of the Great River into your AD converter.

[soundsundergroun]

Cool thing about the insert of the GR being before the output gain stage is that you can use the output gain stage as makeup gain which is probably far superior to the gain of the rnc or rnla

[Soniks]

Thank you Adam and soundsundergroun for the advice. Now it makes perfect sense to use the RNC with the GR's patch connector.
This will be my first compressor at home - though i've used a few expensive ones in a commercial studio before - where would you say this compressor falls? More in the dbx range of "grabby" compression or smoother like an optical comp. design? All I keep reading about it is that its transparent.

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Soniks

Thank you Adam and soundsundergroun for the advice. Now it makes perfect sense to use the RNC with the GR's patch connector.
This will be my first compressor at home - though i've used a few expensive ones in a commercial studio before - where would you say this compressor falls? More in the dbx range of "grabby" compression or smoother like an optical comp. design? All I keep reading about it is that its transparent.

Its less gabby then others. Its a very smooth volume controller, and it seems to just "turn the volume down" rather than give you an "action" of compression. In this regard its extremely transparent and out of the way.

I think its super handy to be able to catch peaks quietly and such and in my experience, there is no reason why you would compress "more' to get "character" from this box, because it just gets softer and does not exhibit any weird or characterful snap, unless you are using it wrong. The RNLA has more "opto" reminiscent color, and the PBC-6A adds some very nice aggression and "toughness" to the chain, perhaps in comparison to something like the EL8.